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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 9356562" data-attributes="member: 177">What the author indicates as &quot;neo-trad&quot; may take it to more than &quot;backstory and engagement&quot;.For example, I will note Ashen Stars, a Gumshoe-based investigation and space opera procedural game.&nbsp; It isn't really neo-trad overall, but it has a neo-trad element: The Personal Arc.&nbsp; In a Personal Arc, the player presents a goal for the character, what it means in terms of internal personal conflict, and three sub-plot ideas that can bring the goal and conflict into play.Look, if you don't care for the conversation, nobody is forcing you to engage.&nbsp; Continuing to try to shout it down isn't helpful to anyone, especially you.When someone presents a categorization based upon what they've seen, it can be enlightening to look at and think about it, because it can reveal things.&nbsp; Taking someone else's perspective for a bit isn't about cementing TEH TRVTH!&nbsp; It is about thinking differently about things for a bit, and seeing if there is some truth to be found in it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 9356562, member: 177"] What the author indicates as "neo-trad" may take it to more than "backstory and engagement". For example, I will note [I]Ashen Stars[/I], a Gumshoe-based investigation and space opera procedural game. It isn't really neo-trad overall, but it has a neo-trad element: The Personal Arc. In a Personal Arc, the player presents a goal for the character, what it means in terms of internal personal conflict,[I] and three sub-plot ideas[/I] that can bring the goal and conflict into play. Look, if you don't care for the conversation, nobody is forcing you to engage. Continuing to try to shout it down isn't helpful to anyone, especially you. When someone presents a categorization based upon what they've seen, it can be enlightening to look at and think about it, because it can reveal things. Taking someone else's perspective for a bit isn't about cementing TEH TRVTH! It is about thinking differently about things for a bit, and seeing if there is [I]some[/I] truth to be found in it. [/QUOTE]

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