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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 7849387" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>You get to play what you like, of course.</p><p></p><p>But... do you realize that you're kind of cherry picking here? The "trillion mph punch" is faster than light, by several orders of magnitude - that is <em>completely nonsensical</em>. If you want to have the physically nonsensical, but not other forms of nonsense, that's your choice. But, maybe it isn't a good position to criticize from.</p><p></p><p>For me...</p><p></p><p>Batman is the greatest detective, and a far more technically trained fighter than Superman. Bats is an expert in psychology and at reading body language - to him, there is no such thing as "no precursors" only precursors that others don't notice, and Clark Kent is known for wearing his heart on his sleeve. Bats sees the signs - the narrowing of the eye, the furrowing of a brow, the vocal tone - that sub-consciously Superman has come to the point where he'll throw a punch, several entire seconds before Supes is even consciously aware of his own decision. Knowing that, when upset with another hero, Superman uses an emotionally demonstrative roundhouse punch to the head rather than the controlled jab to the torso, all Bats does is lean back 2.3", just outside Superman's roundhouse reach... and while the punch is moving too fast for Bats to see, it doesn't connect....</p><p></p><p>Note - I'm not actually a huge Batman fan. I just accept the genre for what it is, and I'm okay with absurd mental gymnastics as narration alongside the physical. Failing to do this... basically says that brawn beats brains, and I'm not up for all my stories ending up like that.</p><p></p><p>Late edit:</p><p>Nor am I saying "Batman always wins". I give plausible narrations for how he could win. The point being that Batman and Superman are both top heroes in their universes. For our purposes, their game stats are built with the same level of build resources, and so in some way, shape, or form, their abilities are of equal effectiveness. We note that they are also both top <em>combatant</em> characters. So it isn't like we are putting Superman against, "Captain IncrediblySmartWimp". So, we put the mechanic to them, and if we find Bats succeeds, we find a plausible narration for it.</p><p></p><p>I note that the "without precursors" is not really a valid stipulation for Superman. He is not known for being stone-faced or unreadable - so it isn't in his power-set. Superman is actually fairly emotional and open with his feelings. If Bats sees Superman even seeming to be cold and unreadable, that actually twigs Bats that something is up even earlier, because that's uncharacteristic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 7849387, member: 177"] You get to play what you like, of course. But... do you realize that you're kind of cherry picking here? The "trillion mph punch" is faster than light, by several orders of magnitude - that is [I]completely nonsensical[/I]. If you want to have the physically nonsensical, but not other forms of nonsense, that's your choice. But, maybe it isn't a good position to criticize from. For me... Batman is the greatest detective, and a far more technically trained fighter than Superman. Bats is an expert in psychology and at reading body language - to him, there is no such thing as "no precursors" only precursors that others don't notice, and Clark Kent is known for wearing his heart on his sleeve. Bats sees the signs - the narrowing of the eye, the furrowing of a brow, the vocal tone - that sub-consciously Superman has come to the point where he'll throw a punch, several entire seconds before Supes is even consciously aware of his own decision. Knowing that, when upset with another hero, Superman uses an emotionally demonstrative roundhouse punch to the head rather than the controlled jab to the torso, all Bats does is lean back 2.3", just outside Superman's roundhouse reach... and while the punch is moving too fast for Bats to see, it doesn't connect.... Note - I'm not actually a huge Batman fan. I just accept the genre for what it is, and I'm okay with absurd mental gymnastics as narration alongside the physical. Failing to do this... basically says that brawn beats brains, and I'm not up for all my stories ending up like that. Late edit: Nor am I saying "Batman always wins". I give plausible narrations for how he could win. The point being that Batman and Superman are both top heroes in their universes. For our purposes, their game stats are built with the same level of build resources, and so in some way, shape, or form, their abilities are of equal effectiveness. We note that they are also both top [I]combatant[/I] characters. So it isn't like we are putting Superman against, "Captain IncrediblySmartWimp". So, we put the mechanic to them, and if we find Bats succeeds, we find a plausible narration for it. I note that the "without precursors" is not really a valid stipulation for Superman. He is not known for being stone-faced or unreadable - so it isn't in his power-set. Superman is actually fairly emotional and open with his feelings. If Bats sees Superman even seeming to be cold and unreadable, that actually twigs Bats that something is up even earlier, because that's uncharacteristic. [/QUOTE]
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