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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 531292" data-attributes="member: 259">This makes sense, and I might end up ruling it this way.An example:I'm a badass large dragon, and you're a lowly human.&nbsp; I've got an attack bonus of +25, compared to your attack bonus of +10.I decide to snatch you and fly off with you, planning on dropping you later on.&nbsp; Here's what happens:1) I make a melee (bite) attack against you, obviously hitting you because I've got a +25 to hit.2) We make opposed grapple checks -- mine at +29 (since I'm one size category larger than you), yours at +10.&nbsp; I'd win, obviously, except that I'm wanting to carry you off -- so instead, I take a -20 penalty on my grapple check, for a total of +9 to your +10.&nbsp; For argument's sake, let's say I win the grapple.3) Here I'm confused.&nbsp; Do I move into your space, even if I don't want to?&nbsp; What about grappling damage?&nbsp; Do I automatically do bite damage to you, even though I just did damage to you?4) Now that I have you in my mouth, and since I'm taking a -20 on my grapple check, I decide to fly away.&nbsp; Since you weigh less than my total weight allowance, I can fly away at normal speed.Does this sound right to everyone?&nbsp; Sorry to be so pedantic about this, but I imagine a similar situation may come up in my game soon, and I want to be able to pull off this somewhat complicated maneuver smoothly.Thanks for the advice!Daniel</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 531292, member: 259"] This makes sense, and I might end up ruling it this way. An example: I'm a badass large dragon, and you're a lowly human. I've got an attack bonus of +25, compared to your attack bonus of +10. I decide to snatch you and fly off with you, planning on dropping you later on. Here's what happens: 1) I make a melee (bite) attack against you, obviously hitting you because I've got a +25 to hit. 2) We make opposed grapple checks -- mine at +29 (since I'm one size category larger than you), yours at +10. I'd win, obviously, except that I'm wanting to carry you off -- so instead, I take a -20 penalty on my grapple check, for a total of +9 to your +10. For argument's sake, let's say I win the grapple. [b]3) Here I'm confused. Do I move into your space, even if I don't want to? What about grappling damage? Do I automatically do bite damage to you, even though I just did damage to you?[/b] 4) Now that I have you in my mouth, and since I'm taking a -20 on my grapple check, I decide to fly away. Since you weigh less than my total weight allowance, I can fly away at normal speed. Does this sound right to everyone? Sorry to be so pedantic about this, but I imagine a similar situation may come up in my game soon, and I want to be able to pull off this somewhat complicated maneuver smoothly. Thanks for the advice! Daniel [/QUOTE]

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