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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 5437038" data-attributes="member: 4937">That sounds like a DM problem.  By 10th level when M-U's really came into their own, most things intended to be serious challenges save as at least 12th level fighters and many as high as 19th level fighters.  (Quicklings are even worse, saving as 19th level clerics.)  And many also have spell resistance.  A 12th level fighter's worst save is spells, but even then he saves 55% of the time.  So at least half of all opponent's should make the save.  The really tough things, like ancient red dragons, don't fail a save on anything but a 5 or less (to say nothing of later great wyrms, or monsters with magic items)In 1e, the fact that your foe was fairly likely to save and ruin your spell meant that fireball and similar spells were king.  Saves might have been pretty decent, but hit points were minimal by today's standard on both sides of the DM screen.  Direct damage spells weren't dice capped and your opponents had d8 HD and usually no bonus hit points (no constitution score).  As a result, you could cripple or kill most things with direct damage even if they made their saving throw.The problem for a 1e M-U was that they were pretty much always one bad round away from death.  You'd be lucky to have 30 h.p. at 10th level, and you were dead at 0. Many fliers will simply melee or grapple you in the air, and take advantage of the fact that you are now alone to isolate you from your melee protection.  Those that don't will likely have missile attacks, and you've just negated your cover bonus and/or the penalty for firing into melee.  I find that flight is fairly suicidal without prior precautions unless you are dealing with a single 'brute' with poor ability to lose a sticky melee type (or perhaps deal with flight at all).  Only with a bad DM.  The worst abuse of Planar Binding is that you can often transform it into one or more equivalent or higher level spells, and in particular divine spells the wizard wouldn't normally have access to.Planatar ally at level 17 is alot less problimatic than Solar ally.Yes, and hense, never cheesy.</blockquote>

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