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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Knight Otu" data-source="post: 1515343" data-attributes="member: 192">In the revised rules, the beast type no longer exists. Most beasts became magical beasts, others became animals. The roc, for example, became an animal.Templates also often use the Augmented subtype to note that a creature has a new type, but uses the features (save and base attack progressions, for exmaple) of the old type. Other templates change these features and do not use the augmented subtype. That should propably be adjusted for the new size. The normal formula for the DC of Supernatural abilties is 10 + Ability modifier (Cha, in this case) +1/2 Hit Dice. You could, however, add a racial bonus to the DC, or give the feat Ability Focus (Song) as a bonus feat, increasing the DC by 2. I like the idea of having multiple types of song abilities. In some cases, you might also have a more powerful ability that notes "This song ability increases the Harpy's CR by a further +1."On the other hand, I would not worry about creating a system to determine which harpy gets which song. Just mention to use the one that fits best to the perceived nature of the bird, and you should be save.</blockquote>