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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Turanil" data-source="post: 2029620" data-attributes="member: 9646">Encounters with fire giants, etc.: Can you invent some plot so the PCs don't have to actually fight the creatures? Well, probably 3rd level PCs won't look like threats to fire-giants and similar creatures who on the other hand could have their own problems to deal with. Now they could see the PCs as useful to them. So the PC would have to interract in some way in some adventures involving some types of creatures against other types of creatures (I don't know: Abishai vs fire giants for instance). As such PCs would have to save their life through trick and deception, not just melee fight to the death.Also if having to fight powerful foes they cannot kill, they could be captured instad of killed, and then this opens on some other plots. Example: PCs are captured by Fire-giants who bring them tied with ropes in order to sacrifice them to their god in a distant place. But on their way they are hampered by some nasty little creatures living in an underground maze. So fire giants (not very bright creatures) tell them to go there and do something on their behalf. There PC must bargain with said nasties to... etc., etc.</blockquote>