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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MoonZar" data-source="post: 1572602" data-attributes="member: 19956">They are level 12 mostly, we play this campaign since level 1-2...Most of them have high charisma, that what make me very crazy. Sometime i think to lower their charisma stats. As u say.. most of them put a dump stat on the charisma without thinking what this mean. The point that make me more disapointed that they mostly are very experience players 7 years and more of DND. Here a resume of the PC (all of them mostly 12 level) :1 paladin Cha: 181 cleric / sorcerer Cha: 201 wizard Cha: 181 Samurai Cha: 121 Fighter/Rogue Cha: 14I mostly kick their but when this happen. When they argue to much to take action, i usually make the thing move and attack them because they take too much time. I don't lower the hp or the attack roll of the monster, i dont have pity when they play so bad...For exemple, in my campaign you have a ruined city and their a evil vampire want to take over the world (i know this classical but still). The vampire was sleeping in the beggining of the campaign to give opportunity for the players to storm the city before the vampire get up...They have wait 5-6 years (campaign world time) before step in the city... and my vampire had planty of time to raise an army and storm the country.I have already kick their ass deeply, some of them was also slave in a village of dark elf.Maybe i should humiliate them by use a npc group to rescue the PC. BTW if the situation doesn't improve a group of npc will take care of the vampire. My only probleme is this will be a shame to play 1 year of campaign and finish like this...But i think some of your advice about the npc that taunt them with their teamworks can be very good.The group try to work strategy but when the combat start they all work like lonewolf and forgot about their idea. Everybody do what they thing right without listen to others..MoonZar</blockquote>

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