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<blockquote data-quote="insanogeddon" data-source="post: 4738263" data-attributes="member: 82822">Tally Ho !Unseen Seer often seems a way better non caster class, exp to get hard to get things like skirmish.&nbsp; By far one of the best skirmish upping classes along with hand of the winged masters.&nbsp; 4 Scout, 1 Sorc/WuJen/etc then 'Hand of the Winged Masters', 'Unseen Seer' is a powerful build I had sprung on me.&nbsp; Your going for more a caster bent tho so I would say.. 4 Scout, ! Sorc, Hand of the Winged Masters, Unseen SeerInterseting and sweet build but I would mitigate some of the bad.&nbsp; Unseen Seer looses alot of CL from its levels.. You will need practiced spell caster to cover the loss but that only covers 4 levels.&nbsp; Further a 1 dip of rogue can be better spent on getting more casty/cool/thievy goodness.&nbsp;1 Spellthief gives the sneak att. of rogue but also the steal spell ability AND it opens up the complete scoundrel feat 'master spellthief' covering CL dramas and alowing you to drain high level spells and not suffer the stamina issues of other caster builds.&nbsp;For the wizard levels I would look to 3 wiz levels (with your improved init swap) and then the 'Master Specialist' (conj:complete mage).&nbsp; You seriously need not boost divination so much, it will be already thru master specialist removing the caster level dramas and CL for divination is rarely relevant.&nbsp;Then a 4 lev dip into Unseen Seer to get the cherries w.o the bitter after taste.Then 5 level dip of 'Spellwarped Sniper' (complete scoundrel) cream on top.These 2 alone well scattered should make Able Learner un-needed.&nbsp;Some Master Specialist filler and post Fill to Epic.&nbsp;Master Spell Thief covers the practiced spell caster need and opens up MANY options, Arcane Thesis is only good when there are spells the DM allows work 24/7 ... if not no, if yes get it.Split Ray and Twin are prob better options than Empower for this build (extra crit chances..... 18th lev imp.crit (ray) would be worth it.&nbsp;Epic Master Specialist 10th will give you a free quicken each round.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="insanogeddon, post: 4738263, member: 82822"] [b]Tally Ho ![/b] Unseen Seer often seems a way better non caster class, exp to get hard to get things like skirmish. By far one of the best skirmish upping classes along with hand of the winged masters. 4 Scout, 1 Sorc/WuJen/etc then 'Hand of the Winged Masters', 'Unseen Seer' is a powerful build I had sprung on me. Your going for more a caster bent tho so I would say.. [COLOR=black][FONT=Trebuchet MS] 4 Scout, ! Sorc, Hand of the Winged Masters, Unseen Seer[/FONT][/COLOR] Interseting and sweet build but I would mitigate some of the bad. Unseen Seer looses alot of CL from its levels.. You will need practiced spell caster to cover the loss but that only covers 4 levels. Further a 1 dip of rogue can be better spent on getting more casty/cool/thievy goodness. 1 Spellthief gives the sneak att. of rogue but also the steal spell ability AND it opens up the complete scoundrel feat 'master spellthief' covering CL dramas and alowing you to drain high level spells and not suffer the stamina issues of other caster builds. For the wizard levels I would look to 3 wiz levels (with your improved init swap) and then the 'Master Specialist' (conj:complete mage). You seriously need not boost divination so much, it will be already thru master specialist removing the caster level dramas and CL for divination is rarely relevant. Then a 4 lev dip into Unseen Seer to get the cherries w.o the bitter after taste. Then 5 level dip of 'Spellwarped Sniper' (complete scoundrel) cream on top. These 2 alone well scattered should make Able Learner un-needed. Some Master Specialist filler and post Fill to Epic. Master Spell Thief covers the practiced spell caster need and opens up MANY options, Arcane Thesis is only good when there are spells the DM allows work 24/7 ... if not no, if yes get it. Split Ray and Twin are prob better options than Empower for this build (extra crit chances..... 18th lev imp.crit (ray) would be worth it. Epic Master Specialist 10th will give you a free quicken each round. [/QUOTE]

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