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<blockquote data-quote="Tormyr" data-source="post: 6532135" data-attributes="member: 6776887">I do disagree with this assessment. After converting many monsters from a 3.5 AP and reverse engineering several from the MM to see how the CR was calculated (especially with spell casters), I have realized that the CR guidelines are like most other parts of 5e, a series of give and take. In this case, monsters of a particular CR are balanced between their longevity and threat.A champion fighter, sorcerer, and warlock of the same CR would all have similar overall balances between longevity (defensive CR) and threat (offensive CR). Some may last longer (champion fighter) and do damage over more turns. Some may burn brightly and get wiped out quickly (sorcerer), but all of the monsters of the same CR will share a similar power level whether that power is skewed toward longevity or threat.Why was the Bar-Igura such a wimp at CR5? What level and number of PCs was the party? Was the encounter supposed to be medium, hard, or deadly? What were the Bar-Igura's stats?Some of the classes are definitely easier to eyeball than others. A wizard or sorcerer generally has a CR 2/3 of its class level, although that can change based on the spells it has.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tormyr, post: 6532135, member: 6776887"] I do disagree with this assessment. After converting many monsters from a 3.5 AP and reverse engineering several from the MM to see how the CR was calculated (especially with spell casters), I have realized that the CR guidelines are like most other parts of 5e, a series of give and take. In this case, monsters of a particular CR are balanced between their longevity and threat. A champion fighter, sorcerer, and warlock of the same CR would all have similar overall balances between longevity (defensive CR) and threat (offensive CR). Some may last longer (champion fighter) and do damage over more turns. Some may burn brightly and get wiped out quickly (sorcerer), but all of the monsters of the same CR will share a similar power level whether that power is skewed toward longevity or threat. Why was the Bar-Igura such a wimp at CR5? What level and number of PCs was the party? Was the encounter supposed to be medium, hard, or deadly? What were the Bar-Igura's stats? Some of the classes are definitely easier to eyeball than others. A wizard or sorcerer generally has a CR 2/3 of its class level, although that can change based on the spells it has. [/QUOTE]

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