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<blockquote data-quote="RayneBlythewood9" data-source="post: 2531428" data-attributes="member: 25931">The bard can't really be a tank, but he can be surprising.&nbsp;&nbsp; I'd go with the 18 in charisma and use the inspire courage ability.One of your first level spells could be inspirational boost out of the complete adventurer.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; That will give all your companions and yourself a +2 to attack and to damage.&nbsp;&nbsp; When you get higher spells there is a 2nd level spell out of complete arcane called Whirling Blade.&nbsp; It allows you to throw a melee weapon and you can use your charisma modifier instead of your strength.&nbsp; There is also a spell &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Masters Touch out of the Complete Adventurer is another 1st level swift spell that allows you gain proficiency in a weapon of shield for 1 min per level.&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Here's what you could do around 4th level of course,&nbsp; &nbsp; Sing&nbsp; (boost it,)&nbsp; Grab the dead bad guys weapon and Master's Touch it.&nbsp; giant greataxe or something... who knows.&nbsp;&nbsp; Then whirling Blade the thing for 60 ft.&nbsp;&nbsp; Or you could do like I did with my bard and max use magic device out the wazoo.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; I currently can cast up to 5th level scrolls even if I roll a one on my use magic device check.&nbsp; Of course our DM had house ruled that a 1 on the d20 is a -10.&nbsp;&nbsp; But you could do lots of stuff with a bard.&nbsp; I did the diplomacy and use magic device.When you get high enough you can take leadership to get a melee monster to help the group out and for you to buff.Just have fun with him.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RayneBlythewood9, post: 2531428, member: 25931"] The bard can't really be a tank, but he can be surprising. I'd go with the 18 in charisma and use the inspire courage ability. One of your first level spells could be inspirational boost out of the complete adventurer. That will give all your companions and yourself a +2 to attack and to damage. When you get higher spells there is a 2nd level spell out of complete arcane called Whirling Blade. It allows you to throw a melee weapon and you can use your charisma modifier instead of your strength. There is also a spell Masters Touch out of the Complete Adventurer is another 1st level swift spell that allows you gain proficiency in a weapon of shield for 1 min per level. Here's what you could do around 4th level of course, Sing (boost it,) Grab the dead bad guys weapon and Master's Touch it. giant greataxe or something... who knows. Then whirling Blade the thing for 60 ft. Or you could do like I did with my bard and max use magic device out the wazoo. I currently can cast up to 5th level scrolls even if I roll a one on my use magic device check. Of course our DM had house ruled that a 1 on the d20 is a -10. But you could do lots of stuff with a bard. I did the diplomacy and use magic device. When you get high enough you can take leadership to get a melee monster to help the group out and for you to buff. Just have fun with him. [/QUOTE]

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