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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 2537955" data-attributes="member: 16285"><p>Not in all games. In the ones I've played in interacton quite often is more important. In fact some of our "best" session involved no combat at all and next to no dice rolling.</p><p></p><p>And I have to greatly disagree with the comment on Extra Music. If the party ony appreciates how the character can "help" in combat then at low levels this is of paramount importance since it can give all allies a +1 to attack and damage for as long as the bard continues to perform (usually sing or chant) - which is much longer than the effect from spells and alows the other spellcasters to dedicate their spell slots to other spells (either of the buff kind or offensive oriented ones).</p><p></p><p>The benefit of the Extra Music feat is also dependent on how many encounters the party has within a day. Are they a series of encounters that lead up to a big one (i.e., gradually wearing down the party) or are they basically one big encounter? Different styles have different tactics.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The problem with trying to "emulate" a fighter is that by all comparisons the bards will end up on the short side of the stick and and the group will still think that they suck becasue if the character was a true fighter then he would have performed that function better. No, it is usually better to focus on what makes the class different and to show itsstrong points. By focusing on ranged attacks the class' broad base is being neglected. The benefits from the bardic music cross several areas (from pure combat to skill assistance to breaking enchantments) The idea would be to show that the bard can do a little of everything and be better than at least one of the other classes at everything. In combat the bard is better than the wizard, in spellcasting the bard is better than the fighter or rogue, in healing capability the bard is better tan everyone except for druids and clerics, etc. The only thing a bard is better than everyone at is in his ability to interact with others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 2537955, member: 16285"] Not in all games. In the ones I've played in interacton quite often is more important. In fact some of our "best" session involved no combat at all and next to no dice rolling. And I have to greatly disagree with the comment on Extra Music. If the party ony appreciates how the character can "help" in combat then at low levels this is of paramount importance since it can give all allies a +1 to attack and damage for as long as the bard continues to perform (usually sing or chant) - which is much longer than the effect from spells and alows the other spellcasters to dedicate their spell slots to other spells (either of the buff kind or offensive oriented ones). The benefit of the Extra Music feat is also dependent on how many encounters the party has within a day. Are they a series of encounters that lead up to a big one (i.e., gradually wearing down the party) or are they basically one big encounter? Different styles have different tactics. The problem with trying to "emulate" a fighter is that by all comparisons the bards will end up on the short side of the stick and and the group will still think that they suck becasue if the character was a true fighter then he would have performed that function better. No, it is usually better to focus on what makes the class different and to show itsstrong points. By focusing on ranged attacks the class' broad base is being neglected. The benefits from the bardic music cross several areas (from pure combat to skill assistance to breaking enchantments) The idea would be to show that the bard can do a little of everything and be better than at least one of the other classes at everything. In combat the bard is better than the wizard, in spellcasting the bard is better than the fighter or rogue, in healing capability the bard is better tan everyone except for druids and clerics, etc. The only thing a bard is better than everyone at is in his ability to interact with others. [/QUOTE]
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