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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 8417962" data-attributes="member: 20323">Thanks [USER=5889]@Stalker0[/USER] ! I hadn't thought to compare it to spirit guardians. Great idea.I definitely want to integrate the past versions, rather than just do a straight conversion of either 2e or 3e's Chaos Hammer.The 2e version is basically a bigger badder thunderwave but swapping out "pushed 10 feet away" for "knocked prone", while the 3e version is sort of like a shatter / fireball, and slow spell combined. Those versions of Chaos Hammer seem a bit too close to design space already occupied by existing spells.It's possible the needle I'm trying to thread is too narrow, but I think there's a design space for this spell between fire shield, spirit guardians, thunderwave, shatter, and slow.Let me take another stab and explain my thought process...<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">There's an initial effect, which I imagine as the outermost in a series of ripples / bullseye circles. This chaotic "front" deals more initial damage (4d8) and can knock creatures off their feet. It doesn't differentiate friends from foe.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The ongoing "smaller" waves of force create conditional difficult terrain – anyone moving towards caster acts as if in difficult terrain.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Creatures starting or entering this area full of these waves of force must make a save or take damage (1d8 per square moved towards you).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Riffing off of chaos bolt, and the mention of "leaping, ricocheting energy" from the 3rd edition version, if a creatures takes multiple d8's of damage while approaching you, and the same number is rolled on two of those d8's, then there is a ricochet effect for another creature in the spell area. This makes it nasty towards hordes trying to close into melee with you.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Certain creature types are immune ("Demons, slaadi, and other creatures of pure chaos are immune to this spell"). 5e's spells have examples of creature type being excluded (typically undead/constructs), but no examples dictating targets according to alignment.</li> </ul>Chaos Hammer (v0.3)4th level evocation (cleric, sorcerer, warlock, wizard)Casting Time: ActionRange: SelfComponents: V, SDuration: Concentration, up to 1 minuteWaves of multicolored concussive ricocheting force emanate from you to a distance of 20 feet for the duration. Creatures treat all movement towards you in the area as difficult terrain.Each creature in a 20-foot radius sphere originating from you must make a Strength saving throw. On a failed save, a creature takes 4d8 force damage and is knocked prone. On a successful save, the creature takes half as much damage.When a creature enters the area for the first time on a turn or starts its turn there, it must succeed a Strength saving throw or take 1d8 force damage per 5 feet moved towards you within the area. It takes this damage when it stops moving towards you.If you roll the same number on two of the d8s of damage dealt to one target, the chaotic energy leaps from the target to another creature of your choice within 20 feet of you. The new target cannot have already succeeded a saving throw against this spell this turn. The new target must roll a Strength saving throw as above, and if it fails you make a new damage roll, which could cause the chaotic energy to leap again.Demons, slaadi, and other creatures of pure chaos are immune to this spell.</blockquote>

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