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<blockquote data-quote="Icaaro" data-source="post: 5275100" data-attributes="member: 93522"><p>Hi guys!</p><p></p><p>So here is the deal. </p><p>First let me introduce myself:</p><p>My name is Eduardo, i'm 29 and i DM since i was like 15 (yay, almost half my life lol)</p><p>I consider myself quite a good DM, but it semmes its only in pre-Epic campaings ...</p><p> </p><p>... but we started a new campaing at level 25. Its our first try at it, so i gave the money to the players as usual (2.1 Million Gps) and told them to make the PCs, and the material they could use was everything printed. Nothing special so far right?</p><p> </p><p>But the players are total power-players. They used the gold to craft the items they need and their gear just completely skyrockets what they can do. For example, they have cloak of resistance that have the following bonuses:</p><p>+5 saves Resistance Bonus (Normal +5 cloak)</p><p>+5 saves Sacred Bonus (Increased 50% in the price because its Adding to a item that already is enchanted)</p><p>+5 saves Insight Bonus (Increased 50% in the price because its Adding to a item that already is enchanted)</p><p>+5 saves blah blah bonus (Increased 50% in the price because its Adding to a item that already is enchanted)</p><p> </p><p>So for 50.000 + 75.000 + 75.000 + 75.000 they can have a +20 to saves cloak of resistance.</p><p>But this is not all, they do this in almost absolute everything. They are so powerful because of all the money they have, that the monsters dont even harm them. </p><p>In the weapons they have all the crystals avaiable in the Magic Item Compedium, so no monsters have DR to them (Seeing that they always have the correct crystal to bypass damage).</p><p> </p><p>In our last session, i droped a CR39 monster right in the middle of them (Remeber, they are level 25), and the poor guy didnt last 2 rounds. They only way I wounded them was using a avatar of nerull (Deities and Pantheons) and that's what they are fighting now. </p><p>There's this fighter that has a bonus to hit of +80, and in a crit deals damage of arounf 500hps. He makes 5 attacks per round. In the gear he has, he can fly, charge without getting AoO, makes Crits at 10-20/x4, and pounces (Making full attack in the Charge). This, added to Dev Crit (which the monster always passed so far), makes it so that no monster at around theyr level are easy as a kobold lvl 1 commoner.</p><p>This is just the fighter... I also have a druid that shape-shifts into everything i can remeber, and a wizard that has more slots than i can count and 2 quicken spells per round... It's too much for the poor critters. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p>I mean, im afraid I cant make a decent challenge for them. They are cruising in this campaign. (Which the main quest is saving BeastLands (Home plane of Ehlona)) from a corruption that is spreading. </p><p>I feel that the only way i can make decent enemies is if i make NPC's like them, but the money for a NPC is WAY lower and it takes MUCH time in preparation of the session. They gathered enough XP too pass a level in "each" session.</p><p>In the next session, (Where they are facing Nerull's Avatar shapeshifted into Skerrit (Centaur Deity)), they will end the campaign, as I have no real desire to continue putting monster to be butchered...</p><p>I dont want to "bend" the rules... I just guess they are too powerfull players.</p><p> </p><p>What do u sugest i do?</p><p></p><p>Thank you</p><p>Icaaro</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Icaaro, post: 5275100, member: 93522"] Hi guys! So here is the deal. First let me introduce myself: My name is Eduardo, i'm 29 and i DM since i was like 15 (yay, almost half my life lol) I consider myself quite a good DM, but it semmes its only in pre-Epic campaings ... ... but we started a new campaing at level 25. Its our first try at it, so i gave the money to the players as usual (2.1 Million Gps) and told them to make the PCs, and the material they could use was everything printed. Nothing special so far right? But the players are total power-players. They used the gold to craft the items they need and their gear just completely skyrockets what they can do. For example, they have cloak of resistance that have the following bonuses: +5 saves Resistance Bonus (Normal +5 cloak) +5 saves Sacred Bonus (Increased 50% in the price because its Adding to a item that already is enchanted) +5 saves Insight Bonus (Increased 50% in the price because its Adding to a item that already is enchanted) +5 saves blah blah bonus (Increased 50% in the price because its Adding to a item that already is enchanted) So for 50.000 + 75.000 + 75.000 + 75.000 they can have a +20 to saves cloak of resistance. But this is not all, they do this in almost absolute everything. They are so powerful because of all the money they have, that the monsters dont even harm them. In the weapons they have all the crystals avaiable in the Magic Item Compedium, so no monsters have DR to them (Seeing that they always have the correct crystal to bypass damage). In our last session, i droped a CR39 monster right in the middle of them (Remeber, they are level 25), and the poor guy didnt last 2 rounds. They only way I wounded them was using a avatar of nerull (Deities and Pantheons) and that's what they are fighting now. There's this fighter that has a bonus to hit of +80, and in a crit deals damage of arounf 500hps. He makes 5 attacks per round. In the gear he has, he can fly, charge without getting AoO, makes Crits at 10-20/x4, and pounces (Making full attack in the Charge). This, added to Dev Crit (which the monster always passed so far), makes it so that no monster at around theyr level are easy as a kobold lvl 1 commoner. This is just the fighter... I also have a druid that shape-shifts into everything i can remeber, and a wizard that has more slots than i can count and 2 quicken spells per round... It's too much for the poor critters. :( I mean, im afraid I cant make a decent challenge for them. They are cruising in this campaign. (Which the main quest is saving BeastLands (Home plane of Ehlona)) from a corruption that is spreading. I feel that the only way i can make decent enemies is if i make NPC's like them, but the money for a NPC is WAY lower and it takes MUCH time in preparation of the session. They gathered enough XP too pass a level in "each" session. In the next session, (Where they are facing Nerull's Avatar shapeshifted into Skerrit (Centaur Deity)), they will end the campaign, as I have no real desire to continue putting monster to be butchered... I dont want to "bend" the rules... I just guess they are too powerfull players. What do u sugest i do? Thank you Icaaro [/QUOTE]
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