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<blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 996472" data-attributes="member: 3051">General advice:&gt; I'm assuming you're Human, Half-Elf, Half-Orc, or Halfling to avoid the XP penalty.&nbsp; Hey, they all start with H!&nbsp; Go figure.&gt; Level 1 as a Rogue, not as a Barbarian.&nbsp; Skill points good.&nbsp; You'll lose 3 HP to gain 16 skill points.&nbsp; Definitely worth it.&gt; Power Attack isn't really useful at first level, since you need BAB to trade off, so hold off on that until at least level 3.&nbsp; Improved Initiative, on the other hand, is great at level 1.&nbsp; Unless, of course, you've really got your heart set on Cleave.Adding a level or two of Barbarian to a Rogue is just fine.&nbsp; Adding a level or two of Rogue to a Barbarian doesn't work quite as well in practice, but it's still okay.For the true munchkin, add Fighter levels to the mix.&nbsp; Assuming you're Human, Half-Elf, or Dwarf, a Barbarian 2/Rogue 2/Fighter 4 is not only a strong fighter, he can qualify for LOTS of PrCs.&nbsp; If you want, add a level of Ranger too, or a third Rogue level (but not both!)&nbsp; Just make sure you find a PrC you like before you do this.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Spatzimaus, post: 996472, member: 3051"] General advice: > I'm assuming you're Human, Half-Elf, Half-Orc, or Halfling to avoid the XP penalty. Hey, they all start with H! Go figure. > Level 1 as a Rogue, not as a Barbarian. Skill points good. You'll lose 3 HP to gain 16 skill points. Definitely worth it. > Power Attack isn't really useful at first level, since you need BAB to trade off, so hold off on that until at least level 3. Improved Initiative, on the other hand, is great at level 1. Unless, of course, you've really got your heart set on Cleave. Adding a level or two of Barbarian to a Rogue is just fine. Adding a level or two of Rogue to a Barbarian doesn't work quite as well in practice, but it's still okay. For the true munchkin, add Fighter levels to the mix. Assuming you're Human, Half-Elf, or Dwarf, a Barbarian 2/Rogue 2/Fighter 4 is not only a strong fighter, he can qualify for LOTS of PrCs. If you want, add a level of Ranger too, or a third Rogue level (but not both!) Just make sure you find a PrC you like before you do this. [/QUOTE]

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