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HELP! Rogue/Ranger Tiefling too powerful?!
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<blockquote data-quote="Fiendish Dire Weasel" data-source="post: 995034" data-attributes="member: 12951"><p>Ahhh, it looks like the problem here is the character is broken I'm sorry to say.</p><p></p><p>If the group is 6th level he should only have 5 character levels as Tiefling is ECL+1.</p><p></p><p>A 5th (even 6th) level Rogue/Ranger with Con14 having 47hp seems stange that is almost max HP (52 would be max possible).</p><p></p><p>He has 5 non-virtual feats while only having 2 feat choices available at 5th level (3 at 6th)</p><p></p><p>Two of the feats, Outsider Wings and Spring Attack are missing prerequisites.</p><p></p><p>Also, if he has 23ac and the Fighter next to him only 15 the Tiefling has to have a lot more/better magic items.</p><p></p><p>I'm all for people doing whatever they want in the game but if this character is out of control in your game it looks like it is because either you let him get that way (though poorly thought out house rules or not paying attention to what he was doing) or the guy is cheating somthing fierce. The rules out of the books aren't responsable for the problem. Don't take this as some kind of attack, I'm not trying to bash you or anything. I have seen similar things occur when a new powergamer (or the worst kind of powergamer: the kind who doesn't actually know or follow the rules) joins a group and isn't watched carefully. The best advice I can give for this type of thing is never allow anyone to take any race/class/feat/ability until you read it and are comfortable with it. No matter how many "Awww, c'mon"'s they give you <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>My best advice for dealing with the Tiefling would have him encounter a nice 8th level 1/2 Orc Barbarian or somthing else with 22+ Str with a greataxe and the Knockdown feat from Sword & Fist and remove the Tiefling from the game. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fiendish Dire Weasel, post: 995034, member: 12951"] Ahhh, it looks like the problem here is the character is broken I'm sorry to say. If the group is 6th level he should only have 5 character levels as Tiefling is ECL+1. A 5th (even 6th) level Rogue/Ranger with Con14 having 47hp seems stange that is almost max HP (52 would be max possible). He has 5 non-virtual feats while only having 2 feat choices available at 5th level (3 at 6th) Two of the feats, Outsider Wings and Spring Attack are missing prerequisites. Also, if he has 23ac and the Fighter next to him only 15 the Tiefling has to have a lot more/better magic items. I'm all for people doing whatever they want in the game but if this character is out of control in your game it looks like it is because either you let him get that way (though poorly thought out house rules or not paying attention to what he was doing) or the guy is cheating somthing fierce. The rules out of the books aren't responsable for the problem. Don't take this as some kind of attack, I'm not trying to bash you or anything. I have seen similar things occur when a new powergamer (or the worst kind of powergamer: the kind who doesn't actually know or follow the rules) joins a group and isn't watched carefully. The best advice I can give for this type of thing is never allow anyone to take any race/class/feat/ability until you read it and are comfortable with it. No matter how many "Awww, c'mon"'s they give you ;) My best advice for dealing with the Tiefling would have him encounter a nice 8th level 1/2 Orc Barbarian or somthing else with 22+ Str with a greataxe and the Knockdown feat from Sword & Fist and remove the Tiefling from the game. :D [/QUOTE]
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