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<blockquote data-quote="Derulbaskul" data-source="post: 512013" data-attributes="member: 1581">Oh no, you typed &quot;rouge&quot; instead of &quot;rogue&quot;... that's the problem. You're being punished by the &quot;gaming gawds&quot;....How about a couple of opponents, say 16th level each.One is a blackguard 10/rogue 6 (assume ex-paladin who converted all his levels to blackguard and that at least one of the rogue levels ) with some sort of darkness or blacklight and silence creating item (or the spells) plus the devil's eye spell from BoVD so he can still see. Also, have a spell-storing item on him that grants him wind wall so as to take care of all those pesky missile weapons.He melees the combat types, within the radius of a combined darkness and silence effect: Darkness + Silence + Sneak Attack = Mess for PC fighter-types, no matter how munchkinised they are, provided the magic isn't countered, which is where our friend the beholder mage comes in: the wizard and psion, and the cleric to a certain extent, can then be taken care of by a beholder mage.This isn't perfect, but it's a good place to start without being too overpowered.CheersNPP</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Derulbaskul, post: 512013, member: 1581"] Oh no, you typed "rouge" instead of "rogue"... that's the problem. You're being punished by the "gaming gawds".... How about a couple of opponents, say 16th level each. One is a blackguard 10/rogue 6 (assume ex-paladin who converted all his levels to blackguard and that at least one of the rogue levels ) with some sort of darkness or blacklight and silence creating item (or the spells) plus the devil's eye spell from BoVD so he can still see. Also, have a spell-storing item on him that grants him wind wall so as to take care of all those pesky missile weapons. He melees the combat types, within the radius of a combined darkness and silence effect: Darkness + Silence + Sneak Attack = Mess for PC fighter-types, no matter how munchkinised they are, provided the magic isn't countered, which is where our friend the beholder mage comes in: the wizard and psion, and the cleric to a certain extent, can then be taken care of by a beholder mage. This isn't perfect, but it's a good place to start without being too overpowered. Cheers NPP [/QUOTE]

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