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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 513615" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>Joshua Dyal:&nbsp; I don't deny D20 starts to have balance issues at around 10th level that become increasingly extreme as party level increases, but I don't necessarily think that the problem he has with balance (if that is what it is) is wholly due to the D20 system.&nbsp;&nbsp; He has a relatively large party.&nbsp;&nbsp; As the number of players increase, any system faces this problem.&nbsp; In order to challenge the party as a whole, the challenge has to become increasingly difficult for each member of the party alone.&nbsp;&nbsp; In a party of 4, you represent roughly 1/4th the resources of the party.&nbsp;&nbsp; In a party of 8, you represent only 1/8th of the resources of the party.&nbsp;&nbsp; If a particular encounter uses up 1/4 of a parties resources, it is more likely in the larger party that all the resources of one party member are consumed.&nbsp; If something unexpected happens, or something happens to concentrate the force of the foes against a single party member, player death is the likely result in any large party facing 'balanced' challenges.&nbsp;&nbsp; This would be true even if the party was 1st level.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 513615, member: 4937"] Joshua Dyal: I don't deny D20 starts to have balance issues at around 10th level that become increasingly extreme as party level increases, but I don't necessarily think that the problem he has with balance (if that is what it is) is wholly due to the D20 system. He has a relatively large party. As the number of players increase, any system faces this problem. In order to challenge the party as a whole, the challenge has to become increasingly difficult for each member of the party alone. In a party of 4, you represent roughly 1/4th the resources of the party. In a party of 8, you represent only 1/8th of the resources of the party. If a particular encounter uses up 1/4 of a parties resources, it is more likely in the larger party that all the resources of one party member are consumed. If something unexpected happens, or something happens to concentrate the force of the foes against a single party member, player death is the likely result in any large party facing 'balanced' challenges. This would be true even if the party was 1st level. [/QUOTE]

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