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<blockquote data-quote="Queenie" data-source="post: 427201" data-attributes="member: 8058"><p>I need some help with issues that have arisen at our game table. We have a large group (8 people) and most of us try the best we can to make things flow smoothly for the DM. This issue has gotten out of hand, and any comments on how to solve things would be appreciated. </p><p></p><p>There is a CG thief in our party. This whole problem started with a conversation, which ended with her saying she never said she was anyone's friend.</p><p></p><p>After that, she tried to cause problems by stealing some magic items from a wizard, including his spellbook. She was accused, as she has admitted to spending time in jail because she is a thief. The spellbook was "found" in our cart, but the magic items disappeared. Out of game she admitted it was her, and when we almost caught her she threw the magic items to the side of the road so she wouldn't be caught.</p><p></p><p>All our characters are now watching her movements pretty cautiously. We encounter a group of goblins, but there is also a flying, invisible ogre mage who starts casting spells at us. My character, a sorcerer, is the only one who knows generally where he is (I have a psedo-dragon who can see invisibility). I cast a fireball at him, he casts a cone of cold back at me and drops me to -5. I am healed and kill him in the end.</p><p></p><p>I ask the thief not to touch him, as I feel I need to exact some revenge on this creature who almost killed me, and I killed him almost exclusively. Our ranger also managed to hit him a few times, and he also asks the thief to leave the ogre mage alone.</p><p></p><p>While we are watching, she continues her actions, she pilfers a ring from him, and lies about not finding anything. My character sees the whole thing. The Ranger thinks he saw her steal, but isn't sure. I feel that after being almost dead I am not in the mood currently to go at it with her, but I know now that she is stealing from our party and is a liar. (I should also mention that there isn't much treasure to be found in this adventure and so far she has managed to steal almost everything.)</p><p></p><p>Out of game, she is forced by our DM to switch alignments to chaotic neutral as she has not been playing a good aligned character. </p><p></p><p>At this point, my character has informed certain party members about the fact that the thief has stolen and lied to us. Our characters start making comments to her about not trusting her and being a thief and that we won't stand for her behavior.</p><p></p><p>In the next town we come to we hear about a dungeon we can check out. So the group decides to go, and the thief comes with us, but she disappears. We go down into the dungeon, and we wonder where she is and if she is trying to trap us down there.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile, she IS trying to trap us down there, and telling the DM she hates us and wants to kill us because we don't like her. I should mention at this point that the DM is my husband, and he was extremely frustrated at the end of the session because even if she is kidding he has to take every note seriously. She sat at the table, bored because she wasn't directly involved in the action. The DM was getting pissed because she kept interrupting the action of the main group with notes asking what her character was doing.</p><p></p><p>This has become a HUGE in and out of game issue. There has been fighting and personals attacks thrown. I feel the person playing the thief is taking what is happening in game personally, although she denies it. I have tried to calm things down between us and she has responded with hostility. She has claimed that "the group" is making it impossible for her to play her character because we are constantly disrupting the game with our remarks. I should say that, so far, there has only been one night where anyone said anything to her.</p><p></p><p>Our group has no problem with her playing her character, but we feel she needs to be responsible for her actions. That includes dealing with the mistrust she has earned from our group.</p><p></p><p>There is much more to this story, and I'm willing to answer any questions I might have left open.. but I am wondering if there is any way to fix this problem? Anyone have any similar problems?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Queenie, post: 427201, member: 8058"] I need some help with issues that have arisen at our game table. We have a large group (8 people) and most of us try the best we can to make things flow smoothly for the DM. This issue has gotten out of hand, and any comments on how to solve things would be appreciated. There is a CG thief in our party. This whole problem started with a conversation, which ended with her saying she never said she was anyone's friend. After that, she tried to cause problems by stealing some magic items from a wizard, including his spellbook. She was accused, as she has admitted to spending time in jail because she is a thief. The spellbook was "found" in our cart, but the magic items disappeared. Out of game she admitted it was her, and when we almost caught her she threw the magic items to the side of the road so she wouldn't be caught. All our characters are now watching her movements pretty cautiously. We encounter a group of goblins, but there is also a flying, invisible ogre mage who starts casting spells at us. My character, a sorcerer, is the only one who knows generally where he is (I have a psedo-dragon who can see invisibility). I cast a fireball at him, he casts a cone of cold back at me and drops me to -5. I am healed and kill him in the end. I ask the thief not to touch him, as I feel I need to exact some revenge on this creature who almost killed me, and I killed him almost exclusively. Our ranger also managed to hit him a few times, and he also asks the thief to leave the ogre mage alone. While we are watching, she continues her actions, she pilfers a ring from him, and lies about not finding anything. My character sees the whole thing. The Ranger thinks he saw her steal, but isn't sure. I feel that after being almost dead I am not in the mood currently to go at it with her, but I know now that she is stealing from our party and is a liar. (I should also mention that there isn't much treasure to be found in this adventure and so far she has managed to steal almost everything.) Out of game, she is forced by our DM to switch alignments to chaotic neutral as she has not been playing a good aligned character. At this point, my character has informed certain party members about the fact that the thief has stolen and lied to us. Our characters start making comments to her about not trusting her and being a thief and that we won't stand for her behavior. In the next town we come to we hear about a dungeon we can check out. So the group decides to go, and the thief comes with us, but she disappears. We go down into the dungeon, and we wonder where she is and if she is trying to trap us down there. Meanwhile, she IS trying to trap us down there, and telling the DM she hates us and wants to kill us because we don't like her. I should mention at this point that the DM is my husband, and he was extremely frustrated at the end of the session because even if she is kidding he has to take every note seriously. She sat at the table, bored because she wasn't directly involved in the action. The DM was getting pissed because she kept interrupting the action of the main group with notes asking what her character was doing. This has become a HUGE in and out of game issue. There has been fighting and personals attacks thrown. I feel the person playing the thief is taking what is happening in game personally, although she denies it. I have tried to calm things down between us and she has responded with hostility. She has claimed that "the group" is making it impossible for her to play her character because we are constantly disrupting the game with our remarks. I should say that, so far, there has only been one night where anyone said anything to her. Our group has no problem with her playing her character, but we feel she needs to be responsible for her actions. That includes dealing with the mistrust she has earned from our group. There is much more to this story, and I'm willing to answer any questions I might have left open.. but I am wondering if there is any way to fix this problem? Anyone have any similar problems? [/QUOTE]
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