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<blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 5608310" data-attributes="member: 92305">If they made it a full round action, it would take a full round to ready the action, and you wouldn't have any time life for whatever action was actually readied.&nbsp;Readying the action is an action (thus how I describe the character getting the spear ready for the charge), and whatever action that is readied is the second action in the round--giving you two actions in the round.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Yes.&nbsp; That's in the paragraph discussing the 5' step.&nbsp; I think it's saying that if you use the 5' step to approach the open door, you cannot use another 5' step once the attack is triggered.&nbsp; As normal, you can only have one 5' step--you decide where you take it.&nbsp;In my example above, the character could take a 5' step then ready the spear.&nbsp; His second action comes when its triggered, and he can't take the 5' step then if he took it earlier.&nbsp;Or, the character can ready the spear, then as the attack is triggered, he can take a 5' step then.&nbsp;In otherwords, the 5' step can only be attached to one action, not both.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;BTW, the 3.5 Rules Companion seems to back up my way of reading this rule.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Yes.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;That's not how I read it...see below.&nbsp;&nbsp;I initially thought that, too.&nbsp; But, if you look at the description of the Ready action, it says, &quot;Readying is a standard action.&quot;&nbsp;So, whatever you have to do to get your later action readied is a standard action.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Remember that you can ready a standard action, move action, free action, or swift action.&nbsp; But, the rule says that &quot;readying&quot; an action is a standard action.&nbsp;That means that you use your first standard action to ready whatever action you wish to ready for later.&nbsp;Then a trigger happens.&nbsp;Then your second action--the one that was readied--is allowed to play out.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;So, when you Ready an action, your first action is always the &quot;readying&quot; part.&nbsp; The second part or your turn happens when it is triggered, and that happens to be whatever action has been triggered--it could be a Move action, a standard action, a free action, or a swift action.&nbsp;You spend the first half of the round readying.&nbsp;The last half of your turn happens when your action is triggered.&nbsp;Therefore, you can't move more than 5' when you are readying an action.&nbsp; But you can ready a move action for trigger later in the round.&nbsp;At least that's what I'm seeing.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;If someone sees something different in the rules, show me where I'm messing this up.&nbsp; I'm just going by what the rulebook says.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Water Bob, post: 5608310, member: 92305"] If they made it a full round action, it would take a full round to ready the action, and you wouldn't have any time life for whatever action was actually readied. Readying the action is an action (thus how I describe the character getting the spear ready for the charge), and whatever action that is readied is the second action in the round--giving you two actions in the round. Yes. That's in the paragraph discussing the 5' step. I think it's saying that if you use the 5' step to approach the open door, you cannot use another 5' step once the attack is triggered. As normal, you can only have one 5' step--you decide where you take it. In my example above, the character could take a 5' step then ready the spear. His second action comes when its triggered, and he can't take the 5' step then if he took it earlier. Or, the character can ready the spear, then as the attack is triggered, he can take a 5' step then. In otherwords, the 5' step can only be attached to one action, not both. BTW, the 3.5 Rules Companion seems to back up my way of reading this rule. Yes. That's not how I read it...see below. I initially thought that, too. But, if you look at the description of the Ready action, it says, "Readying is a standard action." So, whatever you have to do to get your later action readied is a standard action. Remember that you can ready a standard action, move action, free action, or swift action. But, the rule says that "readying" an action is a standard action. That means that you use your first standard action to ready whatever action you wish to ready for later. Then a trigger happens. Then your second action--the one that was readied--is allowed to play out. So, when you Ready an action, your first action is always the "readying" part. The second part or your turn happens when it is triggered, and that happens to be whatever action has been triggered--it could be a Move action, a standard action, a free action, or a swift action. You spend the first half of the round readying. The last half of your turn happens when your action is triggered. Therefore, you can't move more than 5' when you are readying an action. But you can ready a move action for trigger later in the round. At least that's what I'm seeing. [COLOR=green]If someone sees something different in the rules, show me where I'm messing this up. I'm just going by what the rulebook says.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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