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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Renfield" data-source="post: 3720207" data-attributes="member: 13493">Heh, well, that's a bit of a wait and honestly, I refuse to purchase anything 4e until I'm positive they aren't going to pull the B.S. they did with 3rd ed and suck our wallets dry by creating a revised edition. Hell, in my not-so-humble opinion it's too damn soon for 4th ed. anyway. The only reason why they're even doing it is because people couldn't seem to wait a year or two more for goodies to come out before they started crying out "when's 4th edition coming out when's 4th edition coming out" (imagine that being said in a fashion that mocks annoying obnoxious children)... sorry, ranting, I'm a touch bitter.That being said I should get back on track. People are touting PHB 2 and I wholeheartedly agree.I notice people seem to be squeemish here about things being overpowered. If you're one of those DM's who actually thought spell focus at +2 as it was in 3.0 was too powerful and broken or having Bears Strength last 1 hour a level is over the top, then Book of Exalted Deeds isn't for you. However, if you are able to handle things like that, than you can handle some of the stuff I've seen come out of that. If you've a mature group Book of Vile Darkness has some fun things to throw at PC's and make villains really earn that killing blow.As for the complete books, here's my advice: don't worry about them. If you're a DM let your players get them, then, if they want to use something in them make sure you look it over carefully. There's a prestige class in the Complete Mage that gives the Necromancer more crack than the True Necromancer prestige class any day. If you're a player, find a class you enjoy and get the complete books that focus on them. Anyway, that's my two cents, my D&D book collection is fairly small, but I have access to damn near all the Forgotten Realms, Eberron, and many of the other supplements through my roommate and other players. Oh, if you're a DM and like the occasional horror game I highly reccomend Heroes of Horror, rarely have I actually *enjoyed* reading a supplement by WotC rather than flip through it looking only for the crack it contained therein. Good stuff.</blockquote>

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