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<blockquote data-quote="Tashtego" data-source="post: 6300560" data-attributes="member: 5373">Thanks for the help - lots of ideas there.They're expecting just to open the portal and have the demon come out straight away.&nbsp; Since the bargain was to open a portal for the demon to come out at, I don't think they plan on going into the demon's realm to fight it there.One break down could be:1) PCs do ritual to open portal. 2) Portal opens.&nbsp; Was thinking either a horde of minions will pour out in a flood, or something environmental like a series of chaotic elemental blasts from the portal which may damage the massed armies waiting on the other side.&nbsp; Or it could come out as something weird, like a mass of flies or swarm of something.3) PC's army is scattered and demoralised. [Social skill challenge to regroup]4) PCs fight demon henchthings? Solo fights get very draggy and grindy and I want to keep them hopping and running all over the battlefield.&nbsp; They are maxed out against necrotic and elemental resistence, so maybe some critters that swap their damage around.&nbsp; Maybe critters that can fly or push the creatures at long range. I will combo this with terrain effects.5) Physical skill challenge will go somewhere, for the fighty types in the party....&nbsp; Maybe closing the portal?I will check out Sly's Epic 4E book for some ideas on how to have some good set pieces.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tashtego, post: 6300560, member: 5373"] Thanks for the help - lots of ideas there. They're expecting just to open the portal and have the demon come out straight away. Since the bargain was to open a portal for the demon to come out at, I don't think they plan on going into the demon's realm to fight it there. One break down could be: 1) PCs do ritual to open portal. 2) Portal opens. Was thinking either a horde of minions will pour out in a flood, or something environmental like a series of chaotic elemental blasts from the portal which may damage the massed armies waiting on the other side. Or it could come out as something weird, like a mass of flies or swarm of something. 3) PC's army is scattered and demoralised. [Social skill challenge to regroup] 4) PCs fight demon henchthings? Solo fights get very draggy and grindy and I want to keep them hopping and running all over the battlefield. They are maxed out against necrotic and elemental resistence, so maybe some critters that swap their damage around. Maybe critters that can fly or push the creatures at long range. I will combo this with terrain effects. 5) Physical skill challenge will go somewhere, for the fighty types in the party.... Maybe closing the portal? I will check out Sly's Epic 4E book for some ideas on how to have some good set pieces. [/QUOTE]

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