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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 7526209" data-attributes="member: 6704184">I'm gonna say the precise opposite here. Take your first rogue level early. Possibly first, but you may end up with more skills if you start with Bard and MC rogue. The concept is a rogue/bard, so don't ditch that just because Bards are a strong single class. Every level in those early levels, of both classes, is going to give you shiney new toys that you're going to love using. You can have 4 Expert skills at level 3, plus jack of all trades, plus theive's tools, plus solid at-will combat potential and spell based big moments. It's a really fun build, though I prefer Swashbuckler of Scout to Mastermind. Still, Mastermind is really fun if you're into the heavy support character thing. It really rounds out the support Bard, too. You aren't going to miss the level delay with Bard. Seriously. In play, what you get from Rogue will outshine any &quot;oh man I wish I had the next bard thing already&quot;. And I recommend going 4 levels or rogue, because there's no real reason to miss out on a feat just to have one more level of Bard, but there also isn't any hurry to take that final rogue level. Lastly, don't lock yourself in ahead of time. Plan on what you're planning on, but don't fret if you feel like the character wants to go more rogue than you expected, as you level up. They're both great classes with a lot of thematic overlap, and complimentary mechanics.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 7526209, member: 6704184"] I'm gonna say the precise opposite here. Take your first rogue level early. Possibly first, but you may end up with more skills if you start with Bard and MC rogue. The concept is a rogue/bard, so don't ditch that just because Bards are a strong single class. Every level in those early levels, of both classes, is going to give you shiney new toys that you're going to love using. You can have 4 Expert skills at level 3, plus jack of all trades, plus theive's tools, plus solid at-will combat potential and spell based big moments. It's a really fun build, though I prefer Swashbuckler of Scout to Mastermind. Still, Mastermind is really fun if you're into the heavy support character thing. It really rounds out the support Bard, too. You aren't going to miss the level delay with Bard. Seriously. In play, what you get from Rogue will outshine any "oh man I wish I had the next bard thing already". And I recommend going 4 levels or rogue, because there's no real reason to miss out on a feat just to have one more level of Bard, but there also isn't any hurry to take that final rogue level. Lastly, don't lock yourself in ahead of time. Plan on what you're planning on, but don't fret if you feel like the character wants to go more rogue than you expected, as you level up. They're both great classes with a lot of thematic overlap, and complimentary mechanics. [/QUOTE]

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