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<blockquote data-quote="Runesong42" data-source="post: 2379587" data-attributes="member: 10578">Is there some reason why this player can't seem to make a character fit in with the adventuring group?&nbsp; I would direct the player to maybe sit out a session or use an NPC for a session and just watch the other players and how they interact.&nbsp; I would also direct the players to suggest to the indecisive player what sort of roles they would enjoy having in their party.The player's problem could be that he can't seem to find a niche because the PC's have more power and thus more abilities and THUS less need for an additional lower level PC.&nbsp; While the player is trying to 'fit in' each new character, he never does because he's always looking at his character from the ability standpoint and not the RP standpoint.&nbsp; A few levels less than the party average shouldn't matter too much, provided the player has a genuine interest in keeping his character alive, and his fellow players share the same interest.Thirdly, would the DM consider running a solo adventure with the new character so as to advance him a level or two closer to the party average?&nbsp; This would give the player some added background info and the opportunity to &quot;stretch his muscles&quot; to see how the character's abilities work without the pressure of feeling &quot;needed&quot; or forced into a situation he cannot handle.Failing that, there is a prestige class on the WOTC Website called The Chameleon.&nbsp; Google it and peruse... the class gives the player the choice to adapt certain abilities of other classes each day, thereby giving the player to play whatever class he wants, every day! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />- Dru</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Runesong42, post: 2379587, member: 10578"] Is there some reason why this player can't seem to make a character fit in with the adventuring group? I would direct the player to maybe sit out a session or use an NPC for a session and just watch the other players and how they interact. I would also direct the players to suggest to the indecisive player what sort of roles they would enjoy having in their party. The player's problem could be that he can't seem to find a niche because the PC's have more power and thus more abilities and THUS less need for an additional lower level PC. While the player is trying to 'fit in' each new character, he never does because he's always looking at his character from the ability standpoint and not the RP standpoint. A few levels less than the party average shouldn't matter too much, provided the player has a genuine interest in keeping his character alive, and his fellow players share the same interest. Thirdly, would the DM consider running a solo adventure with the new character so as to advance him a level or two closer to the party average? This would give the player some added background info and the opportunity to "stretch his muscles" to see how the character's abilities work without the pressure of feeling "needed" or forced into a situation he cannot handle. Failing that, there is a prestige class on the WOTC Website called The Chameleon. Google it and peruse... the class gives the player the choice to adapt certain abilities of other classes each day, thereby giving the player to play whatever class he wants, every day! :) - Dru [/QUOTE]

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