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<blockquote data-quote="SteveC" data-source="post: 2391258" data-attributes="member: 9053">Oh I think you're spot on in your assessment. We have a large group, 8 players in the game, and we have about 5 of them who are very frustrated with the situation. Three of them are just about ready to leave the game over what's been going on. Of the other players, two of them are very close friends with the player in question, and I don't think they have as much of a problem as a result. That leaves me, and I'm in the middle on it. On the one hand, this is a good player and a good friend, but the constant bickering is becoming difficult to deal with.&nbsp;Here's my situation: I'm in my 30's, so time to play games is something that's both important to me and also a little hard to come by. I just have a huge issue with having something that should be a good time be frustrating and and full of tension instead. The other thing is that the game is great: it's a labor of love for the GM and it really shows...plot, characters, story arcs, they're all top-notch. The GM writes a weekly story hour complete with interludes about what is happening in the greater world, and it is just an incredible level of detail to the storycrafting. That's what makes it all so darn difficult to deal with. In my role as &quot;rules consultant&quot; I'm kind of a bridge between the GM and the group, and the GM is also one of my very best friends, so I want to make this situation better for him and everyone concerned.&nbsp;I think of all of that and then say, but this is just a game, a hobby and something I do for fun.&nbsp;I like the idea of having a discussion about this as a whole, but I don't think it will go particularly well that way...we have discussed it before, and it didn't go well. The player in question basicly just said &quot;I'm going to be true to my character come heck or high water&quot; and left it at that. That's why I think we're going to either have to get him to play a character that will work better with the group or eventually have him leave the game, which will be a real shame. I know it may not sound that way from the picture I've been painting, but it would.&nbsp;--Steve</blockquote>

[QUOTE="SteveC, post: 2391258, member: 9053"] Oh I think you're spot on in your assessment. We have a large group, 8 players in the game, and we have about 5 of them who are very frustrated with the situation. Three of them are just about ready to leave the game over what's been going on. Of the other players, two of them are very close friends with the player in question, and I don't think they have as much of a problem as a result. That leaves me, and I'm in the middle on it. On the one hand, this is a good player and a good friend, but the constant bickering is becoming difficult to deal with. Here's my situation: I'm in my 30's, so time to play games is something that's both important to me and also a little hard to come by. I just have a huge issue with having something that should be a good time be frustrating and and full of tension instead. The other thing is that the game is great: it's a labor of love for the GM and it really shows...plot, characters, story arcs, they're all top-notch. The GM writes a weekly story hour complete with interludes about what is happening in the greater world, and it is just an incredible level of detail to the storycrafting. That's what makes it all so darn difficult to deal with. In my role as "rules consultant" I'm kind of a bridge between the GM and the group, and the GM is also one of my very best friends, so I want to make this situation better for him and everyone concerned. I think of all of that and then say, [b]but this is just a game, a hobby and something I do for fun[/b]. I like the idea of having a discussion about this as a whole, but I don't think it will go particularly well that way...we have discussed it before, and it didn't go well. The player in question basicly just said "I'm going to be true to my character come heck or high water" and left it at that. That's why I think we're going to either have to get him to play a character that will work better with the group or eventually have him leave the game, which will be a real shame. I know it may not sound that way from the picture I've been painting, but it would. --Steve [/QUOTE]

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