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<blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 1380257" data-attributes="member: 892">Tank to me implies heavy armour and lots of hp.&nbsp; That means go fighter all the way or go barbarian all the way.&nbsp; Which depends on the character's taste, but if he likes feat trees, then fighter all the way is the safest best.&nbsp; If he doesn't like the dwarf, and needs that intelligence (so no half-orc, sniff), I recommend human.&nbsp; Then he can get all the feats he needs, and early.I would &quot;tank&quot; the wisdom and charisma scores back down to 8 (what was he thinking?) and decrease INT by one and use those 10 freed up points to increase strength all the way to 18, if this is a point buy.&nbsp; He still can do the spring attack (and, I assume, whirlwind attack).&nbsp; Now he is just more likely to hit and will do more damage (a la tank).&nbsp; If he is feeling fancy, he can go the spiked chain route, but otherwise greatsword is a fine, servicable weapon.&nbsp; But he wants falchion.&nbsp; Hmmm...ok...well, then he might as well go with improved critical.&nbsp; So at 8th level the human will have 9 feats: dodge, mobility, spring attack, combat expertise, improved trip, and four more (I'd say whirlwind attack, weapon focus, weapon specialization and improved critical).&nbsp; The weapon choice makes this a slightly sub-optimal tank, but maybe there is a good roleplaying reason for it.&nbsp; If he just wants to avoid yet another greatsword (and I understand getting bored with that), I would pimp the spiked chain, as he already wants most of the feats that make it useful, and it only costs one more feat (so he delays his other feats one level).&nbsp; But if he is the guy that is meant to be sitting there, soaking the damage while the other guys do the fancy magic and psionic stuff, why is he taking the spring attack route anyhow?&nbsp; Maybe he has a different idea of tank than I do.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Particle_Man, post: 1380257, member: 892"] Tank to me implies heavy armour and lots of hp. That means go fighter all the way or go barbarian all the way. Which depends on the character's taste, but if he likes feat trees, then fighter all the way is the safest best. If he doesn't like the dwarf, and needs that intelligence (so no half-orc, sniff), I recommend human. Then he can get all the feats he needs, and early. I would "tank" the wisdom and charisma scores back down to 8 (what was he thinking?) and decrease INT by one and use those 10 freed up points to increase strength all the way to 18, if this is a point buy. He still can do the spring attack (and, I assume, whirlwind attack). Now he is just more likely to hit and will do more damage (a la tank). If he is feeling fancy, he can go the spiked chain route, but otherwise greatsword is a fine, servicable weapon. But he wants falchion. Hmmm...ok...well, then he might as well go with improved critical. So at 8th level the human will have 9 feats: dodge, mobility, spring attack, combat expertise, improved trip, and four more (I'd say whirlwind attack, weapon focus, weapon specialization and improved critical). The weapon choice makes this a slightly sub-optimal tank, but maybe there is a good roleplaying reason for it. If he just wants to avoid yet another greatsword (and I understand getting bored with that), I would pimp the spiked chain, as he already wants most of the feats that make it useful, and it only costs one more feat (so he delays his other feats one level). But if he is the guy that is meant to be sitting there, soaking the damage while the other guys do the fancy magic and psionic stuff, why is he taking the spring attack route anyhow? Maybe he has a different idea of tank than I do. [/QUOTE]

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