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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MwaO" data-source="post: 6831450" data-attributes="member: 12749">The problem with cost is very straightforward:Alchemy Savant gets +Int to hit with an alchemy attack on an AP(aka standard action)Alchemy Savant gets an encounter power that lets them use an attack as a minor actionAlchemy Theme gives 1 free alchemy item per encounter.i.e. an Alchemy Savant probably ought to be using 5 alchemy items every 3 encounters or so. It only gets 3 free items, though...And in the context that alchemy items are basically weak at-wills once you hit Paragon? Um...That's why the Wand Golf Bag+Arcane Familiar works out really well for an Artificer. The Artificer has his regular powers and then he has a variety of encounter/daily options from his alchemy that mimic Wizard powers. As an example, you could pick up the following items:+1 Master's Wand of Magic Missile(3rd level item) - Magic Missile 1/encounter that includes a push 1.+1 Master's Wand of Thunderwave(3rd level item) - Thunderwave as close burst 1/encounter+1 Wand of 1st level Encounter Power+2 Wand of Icy Rays(8th level item) - freeze ray+2 Wand of Precise Color Spray(10th level Item) - adds +1 to hit with Color Spray, critical hit with 1st roll of Color Spray - radiant flamethrower+4 Wand of Dark Gathering(18th) - tear gas grenade+4 Wand of Prismatic Burst(18th) - upgraded flash grenade+5 Wand of Mass Charm(23rd) - confusion gas?(throw in a wand of utility or 2...)If you upgrade the items when you're about 8 levels higher than the item, your to-hit with them, assuming a starting Int of 20 won't be that bad. They have an interesting effect in combat and make for a very wide variety of options. I typically consider them a 'I'm a 1st/2nd edition Wizard with spell slots' way of going about things, but easy to refluff into alchemist.</blockquote>

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