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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6833797" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Right, by RAW Alchemical items really cannot be buffed in any of the traditional ways. Due to the structuring of their attacks you have to have buffs that are Alchemy-specific (or ones that affect every attack made in a zone or something). Of course DEBUFFS are another story, if you can find a way to make your target vuln or penalize its defenses, or put some effect on it that causes a rider when the target gets hit, etc, then it can obviously apply to an Alchemical attack, at least in principle. Lasting Frost for instance would work well here, especially if you had the Alchemist Savant PP, meaning you could do an attack that invoked LF and then minor action another attack using an Alchemical item for an extra 5 damage. It just adds a tad bit of sauce. While I don't disagree with you that Alchemist Savant isn't a super PP, if you're going that route, then these are the sorts of tweaks to synergize with it and get a little more oomph from the whole thing.</p></blockquote><p></p>