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<blockquote data-quote="Neumannium" data-source="post: 1791457" data-attributes="member: 10892">Hi all,I'm currently running a homebrew campaign and we're nearing one of the climactic battles of the current scenario.&nbsp; We should be there in a week or two...Problem is, I'm not sure how hard to make this fight.Here's the setup:&nbsp; It will be a gladatorial type combat, so the PCs know they're getting into a fight, and each side will have 5 rounds for buffing and potion drinking.&nbsp; They won't know WHAT/WHO they're fighting until the fight starts, however.I'm letting them use all their equipment.So, they'll be all buffed up and ready to go when the fight starts - as will their opponents.All 4 characters are 14th level.&nbsp; There's a paladin, a fighter, a rogue, and a sorceror.I'd like their opponents to have some or all of their levels as character levels. (example: human fighter, ogre barbarian, mind flayer sorceror)Now, the books state that one opponent (lets say a 14th level human fighter) has a CR of 14.&nbsp; This doesn't seem right to me.&nbsp; 4 14th level characters would be challenged by 1 14th level enemy?&nbsp; I'd like to make a group of 3 or 4 opponents that will give these 4 characters a REAL good run for their money, but I also don't want to make the fight impossible, which is what I'm afraid of if I roll up 4 characters to oppose them.So (finally), my question is: How do you handle this?&nbsp; Can I send 4 14th level guys against my PCs without creating a ton of problems?&nbsp; If yes, can I stock them with equipment based on the values in the DM's guide? (for example, a 13th level character should have 110,000gp worth of equipment)&nbsp; If no, then what?This is a huge fight and I want it to be hard -- perhaps even fatal for the characters, but I want them to have a fair shake, too.Sorry this is so long.&nbsp; If you need any clarification on any point, let me know.Thanks in advance for your help!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Neumannium, post: 1791457, member: 10892"] Hi all, I'm currently running a homebrew campaign and we're nearing one of the climactic battles of the current scenario. We should be there in a week or two... Problem is, I'm not sure how hard to make this fight. Here's the setup: It will be a gladatorial type combat, so the PCs know they're getting into a fight, and each side will have 5 rounds for buffing and potion drinking. They won't know WHAT/WHO they're fighting until the fight starts, however. I'm letting them use all their equipment. So, they'll be all buffed up and ready to go when the fight starts - as will their opponents. All 4 characters are 14th level. There's a paladin, a fighter, a rogue, and a sorceror. I'd like their opponents to have some or all of their levels as character levels. (example: human fighter, ogre barbarian, mind flayer sorceror) Now, the books state that one opponent (lets say a 14th level human fighter) has a CR of 14. This doesn't seem right to me. 4 14th level characters would be challenged by 1 14th level enemy? I'd like to make a group of 3 or 4 opponents that will give these 4 characters a REAL good run for their money, but I also don't want to make the fight impossible, which is what I'm afraid of if I roll up 4 characters to oppose them. So (finally), my question is: How do you handle this? Can I send 4 14th level guys against my PCs without creating a ton of problems? If yes, can I stock them with equipment based on the values in the DM's guide? (for example, a 13th level character should have 110,000gp worth of equipment) If no, then what? This is a huge fight and I want it to be hard -- perhaps even fatal for the characters, but I want them to have a fair shake, too. Sorry this is so long. If you need any clarification on any point, let me know. Thanks in advance for your help! [/QUOTE]

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