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<blockquote data-quote="scipio" data-source="post: 1946203" data-attributes="member: 16382">Thanks to everyone for your replies.&nbsp; At least there's an overwhelming consensus - TPK.&nbsp; The reasons for the limitations are due to plot points.&nbsp; This particular dragon has hidden its form for hundreds of years (in fact, one of the ways I've scaled down its age is by not counting these &quot;mortal&quot; years), living amongst the populace.&nbsp; Indeed, the players know this man quite well.&nbsp; At this time, it's particularly reluctant to reveal its true form.&nbsp; Second, the setting is not the dragon's lair - it's the king's palace, since the dragon is in the midst of avenging a 1000 year old dispute - and there are hostages and important items that would be placed at risk by the flame.&nbsp; There's no room to take flight, and little room for such a large creature to turn around.&nbsp; My thinking was that fighters at this level will have an 18-20 attack bonus on their first attack (str +4-+6, BAB +11, Greater weapon focus +2, +2 or 3 magic weapon), wizards with spell penetration will have around 40% chance of successful casting, and buffed priests will have similar odds.&nbsp; Sure, my players may have to expend every item in their possession, but they won't have to kill the dragon, just do enough damage to make it flee.&nbsp; At any rate, I may just stat it out like an adult dragon, or reduce its size by 1.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="scipio, post: 1946203, member: 16382"] Thanks to everyone for your replies. At least there's an overwhelming consensus - TPK. The reasons for the limitations are due to plot points. This particular dragon has hidden its form for hundreds of years (in fact, one of the ways I've scaled down its age is by not counting these "mortal" years), living amongst the populace. Indeed, the players know this man quite well. At this time, it's particularly reluctant to reveal its true form. Second, the setting is not the dragon's lair - it's the king's palace, since the dragon is in the midst of avenging a 1000 year old dispute - and there are hostages and important items that would be placed at risk by the flame. There's no room to take flight, and little room for such a large creature to turn around. My thinking was that fighters at this level will have an 18-20 attack bonus on their first attack (str +4-+6, BAB +11, Greater weapon focus +2, +2 or 3 magic weapon), wizards with spell penetration will have around 40% chance of successful casting, and buffed priests will have similar odds. Sure, my players may have to expend every item in their possession, but they won't have to kill the dragon, just do enough damage to make it flee. At any rate, I may just stat it out like an adult dragon, or reduce its size by 1. [/QUOTE]

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