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<blockquote data-quote="Squire James" data-source="post: 5925965" data-attributes="member: 548"><p>The caster level x spell level x 2,000 gp cost is a guideline, yes. Some spells would become unusually "broken" if they can be at will, so the GM is well within his rights to change the cost or even forbid the item altogether. Though not mentioned in Pathfinder, the 3e rules that established the cost explained that this cost is based on the idea that an "at will" item will be used about 5 times per day. For example, a Ring of Invisibility is more expensive because it is likely to be used numerous times per day.</p><p></p><p>If allowed, the item should act exactly like the spell. In the two examples you gave, that would be an immediate action (like a Ring of Feather Fall). Next I'll give my opinions on the specific spells you are looking at. Your GM may think differently.</p><p></p><p>Gallant Inspiration is very similar to Invisibility... it will likely be used every round if it's usable at will. Its minimum caster level is slightly higher than Invisibility and it has similar utility, so I would price it at about 25,000 gp. It activates as an immediate action as the spell, limited to once per round (to keep it from being broken still).</p><p></p><p>Hero's Defiance is essentially a "caster Paladin cannot die until out of Lay on Hands or out of this spell" spell. Practically speaking, it probably won't be used more than 5 times per day and it's no good unless it's worn by a Paladin. It still seems like a pretty powerful item for the 4,000 gp guideline cost. Every Paladin alive would want one, so I could see high demand pushing the cost up to 8,000 or even 10,000.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Squire James, post: 5925965, member: 548"] The caster level x spell level x 2,000 gp cost is a guideline, yes. Some spells would become unusually "broken" if they can be at will, so the GM is well within his rights to change the cost or even forbid the item altogether. Though not mentioned in Pathfinder, the 3e rules that established the cost explained that this cost is based on the idea that an "at will" item will be used about 5 times per day. For example, a Ring of Invisibility is more expensive because it is likely to be used numerous times per day. If allowed, the item should act exactly like the spell. In the two examples you gave, that would be an immediate action (like a Ring of Feather Fall). Next I'll give my opinions on the specific spells you are looking at. Your GM may think differently. Gallant Inspiration is very similar to Invisibility... it will likely be used every round if it's usable at will. Its minimum caster level is slightly higher than Invisibility and it has similar utility, so I would price it at about 25,000 gp. It activates as an immediate action as the spell, limited to once per round (to keep it from being broken still). Hero's Defiance is essentially a "caster Paladin cannot die until out of Lay on Hands or out of this spell" spell. Practically speaking, it probably won't be used more than 5 times per day and it's no good unless it's worn by a Paladin. It still seems like a pretty powerful item for the 4,000 gp guideline cost. Every Paladin alive would want one, so I could see high demand pushing the cost up to 8,000 or even 10,000. [/QUOTE]
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