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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5190553" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>Well, FWIW, I think it was Hong who a few years ago posted a great thread about "notes on a swordsage in play" about his experiences in Age of Worms playing a swordsage. Obviously the thread has tons of spoilers, but he seemed to do fine, and certainly survived a lot better than the beefy d12 HD barbarian in the group. One thing to take away from reading that thread that I don't think is much of a spoiler: The Mind Over Body counter saved his character's ass on numerous occasions. Now, a Crusader CAN pick it up with a feat at level 10+, but Concentration wouldn't be a class skill until then, so you'd have to catch up on it. Then again...it's PF, so class skill probably only means you get a +3 bonus it it, right? Also, PF means Concentration isn't a skill anymore... And being Warforged means you don't have to worry about as many fort saves as a normal person...</p><p></p><p>Crusader is the best for keeping things off the rest of the party if that's what you want. Warblade can certainly stand toe to toe with them as well, and Swordsage doesn't have to because he does fine skirmishing.</p><p></p><p>If you want Stormguard Warrior, it's probably best that you multiclass with Warblade for a level or 2 (2 gives Uncanny Dodge, so I'd consider that tempting). Doing a Warblade multiclass could also help "correct" your stance progression a little bit as a Crusader. And handily, Adaptive Style would let you refresh / swap out which maneuvers you ready for each class in one full round action. I'd need to see the Crusader stance progression to decide the best time to go Warblade. But aside from that, you should try to enter it so that you can pick up level 3 maneuvers when you do so. Then you can get Iron Heart Surge (not useful for fixing the houserule, that was a joke; is useful for any other in game condition practically) and a second helping of White Raven Tactics (ready it once with each class <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ). Your lone Warblade stance would be Punishing Stance, one I generally dislike, but you'll be using Devoted Spirit stances anyway. Punishing Stance is just to qualify for Stormguard Warrior.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5190553, member: 35909"] Well, FWIW, I think it was Hong who a few years ago posted a great thread about "notes on a swordsage in play" about his experiences in Age of Worms playing a swordsage. Obviously the thread has tons of spoilers, but he seemed to do fine, and certainly survived a lot better than the beefy d12 HD barbarian in the group. One thing to take away from reading that thread that I don't think is much of a spoiler: The Mind Over Body counter saved his character's ass on numerous occasions. Now, a Crusader CAN pick it up with a feat at level 10+, but Concentration wouldn't be a class skill until then, so you'd have to catch up on it. Then again...it's PF, so class skill probably only means you get a +3 bonus it it, right? Also, PF means Concentration isn't a skill anymore... And being Warforged means you don't have to worry about as many fort saves as a normal person... Crusader is the best for keeping things off the rest of the party if that's what you want. Warblade can certainly stand toe to toe with them as well, and Swordsage doesn't have to because he does fine skirmishing. If you want Stormguard Warrior, it's probably best that you multiclass with Warblade for a level or 2 (2 gives Uncanny Dodge, so I'd consider that tempting). Doing a Warblade multiclass could also help "correct" your stance progression a little bit as a Crusader. And handily, Adaptive Style would let you refresh / swap out which maneuvers you ready for each class in one full round action. I'd need to see the Crusader stance progression to decide the best time to go Warblade. But aside from that, you should try to enter it so that you can pick up level 3 maneuvers when you do so. Then you can get Iron Heart Surge (not useful for fixing the houserule, that was a joke; is useful for any other in game condition practically) and a second helping of White Raven Tactics (ready it once with each class :) ). Your lone Warblade stance would be Punishing Stance, one I generally dislike, but you'll be using Devoted Spirit stances anyway. Punishing Stance is just to qualify for Stormguard Warrior. [/QUOTE]
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