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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ahriri" data-source="post: 7344396" data-attributes="member: 6938993">Yes, they were in magical darkness.  I admit the situation was pretty strange which was why the argument broke out in the first place.  If I remember correctly (just woke up so I might be remembering the bat stats wrong), the bat has blind sight which is how it can "see" in magical darkness.  However, this blind sight is derived from it's echolocation and not it's normal eye sight which was why I made the call that being deafened would remove the ability to see in magical darkness.Her argument never brought up that bat's have pretty good eyesight.  If it was regular darkness and she had brought that up, I would have conceded right away and thanked her for telling me this cool fact.  What she did was pull out a book and repeat over and over again "but the book says bats have blindsight!".The call itself may have been debatable but my main issue with the situation was the cleric throwing a fit and arguing about it for way longer than necessary.  Especially considering how it wasn't that big of a deal.  The players were fighting a single mediocre enemy in magical darkness and no one could see so everyone was attacking with disadvantage.  The fight would've been over in a few turns anyway since the enemy had a low AC so the player's would usually hit even with disadvantage.</blockquote>