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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Angerland" data-source="post: 3230189" data-attributes="member: 32518">thanks for the help thus far. I am definetly not out for a TPK, if one or two go down, well then the victory will be all the sweeter.  Our Party is actually 6 strong but the Ranger, (and my Dwarven Wizard) are probably the most effective reliably.  The others are an elven Cleric of Thor, Elven Rogue, Two Human Monk types that both are mutliclassed with a mess of things that makes it all rather confusing to me. One is a Sho Disciple or something and one...well I am not sure and it really hasn't been all that important as both are newer players that haven't fully tweaked their characters.I guess I was thinking along the lines of the Domains of Destruction and Evil.. I am very interested in Windwall as the Ranger is the most consistent damage out put in the party and is played by the only true powergamer in the group, i.e he could probably tweak a Warrior 20 into something awesome.  Undead could certainly be allowed and of course very evil general has a cohort.  If a Balor is too tough, then what would be a "just tough enough" critter?To give you an example of our party's effectiveness. we just faced off against 6 Lvl 10 Ibixians (Not sure of their class as they never did anything lieka barbarian) and two of those nasty bear things out of Monster Manual III.  My first plan was to have the party raid the Temple of Loki for some reason or another.as they enter they notice the eveil cleric at the altar, some baddies on the floor between the party and the BBEG and then they notice that there is a balcony around the top of the room. I thought of having Gnoll rangers in the balcony supported by some mid level clerics for buff spells and what not and some kind of big thugs on the floor.  We have been using the Ibixians just for a new bad race ( I know the are neutral in the book) other than the old Orc/Gobbo thing. I thought of throwing in some Minotaurs too for extra thump all with character levels of course....but I like the Giants idea.  That could be fun.  Keep up the good help guys I can almost feel them squirm now!</blockquote>

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