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<blockquote data-quote="Jackinthegreen" data-source="post: 6169628" data-attributes="member: 6678119">ToB has two big reasons to be banned that sometimes go hand in hand:1. The DM isn't familiar with it, and thus can't work around it, so banning its use means the DM simply doesn't have to deal with a whole new system.2. There is a &quot;mundanes can't get nice things&quot; mentality where the people have a set idea of what fighter-types are supposed to be like, and since ToB breaks that, it's viewed as overpowered.&nbsp; Yes, it's a double standard, but good luck trying to convince people it's not really a problem if they weren't really open to contemplating being wrong in the first place.I suppose one of the things certain kinds of players think is really powerful is getting to roll a lot of dice, especially for damage.&nbsp; ToB happens to have a fair few maneuvers that use decent d6 chunks, so that's another strike against it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jackinthegreen, post: 6169628, member: 6678119"] ToB has two big reasons to be banned that sometimes go hand in hand: 1. The DM isn't familiar with it, and thus can't work around it, so banning its use means the DM simply doesn't have to deal with a whole new system. 2. There is a "mundanes can't get nice things" mentality where the people have a set idea of what fighter-types are supposed to be like, and since ToB breaks that, it's viewed as overpowered. Yes, it's a double standard, but good luck trying to convince people it's not really a problem if they weren't really open to contemplating being wrong in the first place. I suppose one of the things certain kinds of players think is really powerful is getting to roll a lot of dice, especially for damage. ToB happens to have a fair few maneuvers that use decent d6 chunks, so that's another strike against it. [/QUOTE]

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