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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4372072" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>I'm not saying "the property of OA is removed".</p><p></p><p>I'm saying Twin Strike doesn't grant two OAs, it grants two attacks.</p><p></p><p>Twin Strike in this circumstance <em>is</em> an OA, but it grants two attacks which are not in and of themselves OAs; they are part of the Twin Strike OA.</p><p></p><p>And the Twin Strike OA, since it was granted by Two-Weapon Flurry, is explicitly an [OA with your off-hand weapon].</p><p></p><p>So if the attack with your primary weapon hits, is it an [OA with your primary weapon]? No, there is no OA with your primary weapon. To find the OA, we have to go one step up the chain, to Twin Strike itself.</p><p></p><p>So while the attack with your primary weapon is not <em>by itself</em> an OA, it is part of an OA, and so a hit with your primary weapon is a hit with an OA. But the OA that it is a hit with is Twin Strike, and Twin Strike is an [OA with your off-hand weapon]... so a hit with your primary weapon is, in this case, a hit with an [OA with your off-hand weapon]. Not a hit with an [OA with your primary weapon].</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4372072, member: 1656"] I'm not saying "the property of OA is removed". I'm saying Twin Strike doesn't grant two OAs, it grants two attacks. Twin Strike in this circumstance [i]is[/i] an OA, but it grants two attacks which are not in and of themselves OAs; they are part of the Twin Strike OA. And the Twin Strike OA, since it was granted by Two-Weapon Flurry, is explicitly an [OA with your off-hand weapon]. So if the attack with your primary weapon hits, is it an [OA with your primary weapon]? No, there is no OA with your primary weapon. To find the OA, we have to go one step up the chain, to Twin Strike itself. So while the attack with your primary weapon is not [i]by itself[/i] an OA, it is part of an OA, and so a hit with your primary weapon is a hit with an OA. But the OA that it is a hit with is Twin Strike, and Twin Strike is an [OA with your off-hand weapon]... so a hit with your primary weapon is, in this case, a hit with an [OA with your off-hand weapon]. Not a hit with an [OA with your primary weapon]. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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