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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4373081" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>The at-will attack <em>is</em> an OA... specifically, an OA with your off-hand weapon. But the at-will attack is Twin Strike. The attack with your primary weapon and the attack with your off-hand weapon are things Twin Strike lets you do.</p><p></p><p>Twin Strike is the OA with your off-hand weapon. The attack with your primary weapon is part of Twin Strike; thus, the attack with your primary weapon is part of the [OA with your off-hand weapon]. The attack with your off-hand weapon is part of Twin Strike; thus, the attack with your off-hand weapon is part of the [OA with your off-hand weapon]. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Let's say we have a Fighter with Heavy Blade Opportunity and Tide of Iron.</p><p></p><p>Someone provokes an OA, and he replaces the basic attack with Tide of Iron. He deals damage and pushes the opponent.</p><p></p><p>Is the push an OA? No, Tide of Iron is the OA. The push is something that resulted from the OA.</p><p></p><p>Twin Strike is the OA, in our example, and more specifically it is an OA with your off-hand weapon. The attack with your primary weapon is something that results from your OA with your off-hand weapon. Twin Strike doesn't grant an OA, it grants an attack; in this case Twin Strike <em>is</em> an OA. That doesn't make the attack it grants an OA.</p><p></p><p>Let's say we have a Rogue with the Heavy Blade Opportunity feat, a rapier in one hand, and a hand crossbow in the other. An OA is provoked. He is making an OA with his rapier - a heavy blade - and the feat lets him replace the basic attack with an at-will attack with the Weapon keyword. Deft Strike is an at-will attack with the Weapon keyword, and he is wielding a crossbow, light blade, or sling; can he then replace the basic attack with Deft Strike, and back up two squares and shoot the provoker with his crossbow? Or does the "making an OA with a Heavy Blade" still restrict the at-will attack with the Weapon keyword to being made with the Heavy Blade that triggered the HBO feat in the first place?</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4373081, member: 1656"] The at-will attack [i]is[/i] an OA... specifically, an OA with your off-hand weapon. But the at-will attack is Twin Strike. The attack with your primary weapon and the attack with your off-hand weapon are things Twin Strike lets you do. Twin Strike is the OA with your off-hand weapon. The attack with your primary weapon is part of Twin Strike; thus, the attack with your primary weapon is part of the [OA with your off-hand weapon]. The attack with your off-hand weapon is part of Twin Strike; thus, the attack with your off-hand weapon is part of the [OA with your off-hand weapon]. Let's say we have a Fighter with Heavy Blade Opportunity and Tide of Iron. Someone provokes an OA, and he replaces the basic attack with Tide of Iron. He deals damage and pushes the opponent. Is the push an OA? No, Tide of Iron is the OA. The push is something that resulted from the OA. Twin Strike is the OA, in our example, and more specifically it is an OA with your off-hand weapon. The attack with your primary weapon is something that results from your OA with your off-hand weapon. Twin Strike doesn't grant an OA, it grants an attack; in this case Twin Strike [i]is[/i] an OA. That doesn't make the attack it grants an OA. Let's say we have a Rogue with the Heavy Blade Opportunity feat, a rapier in one hand, and a hand crossbow in the other. An OA is provoked. He is making an OA with his rapier - a heavy blade - and the feat lets him replace the basic attack with an at-will attack with the Weapon keyword. Deft Strike is an at-will attack with the Weapon keyword, and he is wielding a crossbow, light blade, or sling; can he then replace the basic attack with Deft Strike, and back up two squares and shoot the provoker with his crossbow? Or does the "making an OA with a Heavy Blade" still restrict the at-will attack with the Weapon keyword to being made with the Heavy Blade that triggered the HBO feat in the first place? -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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