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Message: <blockquote data-quote="OchreJelly" data-source="post: 4709313" data-attributes="member: 62056">thanks for the advice so far.  I considered the 'action movie' approach but my concern is given the range players have at their disposal (I mean a ranger's long range is pretty long) they may try to exert influence on parts of the fight out of frame...  I like the idea of incorporating a skill challenge into it.  I'm almost inclined to turn the out-of-frame parts into a skill challenge that can work concurrently with the fight.  I'm not sure how that would work in practice but it's a thought.  Maybe a target of opportunity presents itself each round out of frame...I was originally thinking of treating the npcs as minions and just doing a 50-50 roll to see if they take out other minions on their turn but it may be easier to just make that part of the scenery.</blockquote>