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<blockquote data-quote="Bad Paper" data-source="post: 3049463" data-attributes="member: 24674"><p>because it breaks the metagame. You get followers because of your reputation. How can putting on a hat make you more famous? Going on a quest for the <em>Helm of the Great Triton King</em>, for example, may enhance your reputation, but making something in your basement and putting it on? How about a tin-foil hat?</p><p></p><p>You have to come up with a very good reason for the PC to gain his increased fame/notoriety, and possibly a way for it to backfire, since if you have more followers of a higher level, they will be less likely to respect the PC's cohort, and more likely to behave as a cult.</p><p></p><p>If you tell the PC to <strong>go out and adventure</strong>, he probably will get them earlier. XP should be the only thing to help him here. Does he also want this thing to affect bardic knowledge?</p><p></p><p>I would look at the <em><a href="http://d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#phylacteryofUndeadTurning" target="_blank">phylactery of undead turning</a></em> for ideas. Note that, in general, clerics can turn undead fewer times per day than bards can use their music, so the bardic item will get more use, and hence should be more expensive, pound-for-pound. Also, the phylactery essentially counters Turn Resistance, but there isn't much in the way of Bardic Music Resistance out there, so there is danger in this item becoming subtly overpowered.</p><p></p><p>OK, I will go lower than my earlier 25k estimate, and say that this thing should be something in the neighborhood of the aforementioned phylactery, the <em><a href="http://d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#vestmentDruids" target="_blank">druid's vestment</a></em>, and the <em><a href="http://d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#beltMonks" target="_blank">monk's belt</a></em>. But it's going to see a lot more use! Go no lower than 15k. Make it extra sparkly and gemtastic for a +2 circumstance bonus to Diplomacy checks. Emphasize how unique and gorgeous it is. He will have the flyest spinning rims in the 'hood.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bad Paper, post: 3049463, member: 24674"] because it breaks the metagame. You get followers because of your reputation. How can putting on a hat make you more famous? Going on a quest for the [i]Helm of the Great Triton King[/i], for example, may enhance your reputation, but making something in your basement and putting it on? How about a tin-foil hat? You have to come up with a very good reason for the PC to gain his increased fame/notoriety, and possibly a way for it to backfire, since if you have more followers of a higher level, they will be less likely to respect the PC's cohort, and more likely to behave as a cult. If you tell the PC to [b]go out and adventure[/b], he probably will get them earlier. XP should be the only thing to help him here. Does he also want this thing to affect bardic knowledge? I would look at the [i][URL=http://d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#phylacteryofUndeadTurning]phylactery of undead turning[/URL][/i] for ideas. Note that, in general, clerics can turn undead fewer times per day than bards can use their music, so the bardic item will get more use, and hence should be more expensive, pound-for-pound. Also, the phylactery essentially counters Turn Resistance, but there isn't much in the way of Bardic Music Resistance out there, so there is danger in this item becoming subtly overpowered. OK, I will go lower than my earlier 25k estimate, and say that this thing should be something in the neighborhood of the aforementioned phylactery, the [i][URL=http://d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#vestmentDruids]druid's vestment[/URL][/i], and the [i][URL=http://d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/wondrousItems.htm#beltMonks]monk's belt[/URL][/i]. But it's going to see a lot more use! Go no lower than 15k. Make it extra sparkly and gemtastic for a +2 circumstance bonus to Diplomacy checks. Emphasize how unique and gorgeous it is. He will have the flyest spinning rims in the 'hood. [/QUOTE]
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