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<blockquote data-quote="Pyske" data-source="post: 154844" data-attributes="member: 3567">A thread not too long ago suggested that monks are actually the ultimate mage-killer.&nbsp; They have excellent saves, enough mobility to bypass the front line fighters, can target one of the saves that is generally weak on a mage (Fort), and use multiple attacks (which tends to be significantly more effective against a low-AC target).The monk is probably the most mobile character class.&nbsp; Give him expertise, and have him spend his actions on indirect combat options.&nbsp; Monks are excellent at setting up flanking with rogues (which also helps offset their own low attack bonus on multiple attacks).&nbsp; Even more useful, the monk is the person best equipped to safely get to and heal fallen characters.Also, don't forget the non-standard combat options.&nbsp; Trip, grapple, and otherwise disrupt the enemy lines.&nbsp; Intentionally draw AOOs using mobility, so that fellow party members can approach opponents who have reach safely.Dress him up as a wizard, pointy hat and all.&nbsp; All those obnoxious enemies who like to target mages first will be in for a bit of a shock. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Well, hope some of these ideas prove helpful.&nbsp;. . . . . . . -- Eric</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pyske, post: 154844, member: 3567"] A thread not too long ago suggested that monks are actually the ultimate mage-killer. They have excellent saves, enough mobility to bypass the front line fighters, can target one of the saves that is generally weak on a mage (Fort), and use multiple attacks (which tends to be significantly more effective against a low-AC target). The monk is probably the most mobile character class. Give him expertise, and have him spend his actions on indirect combat options. Monks are excellent at setting up flanking with rogues (which also helps offset their own low attack bonus on multiple attacks). Even more useful, the monk is the person best equipped to safely get to and heal fallen characters. Also, don't forget the non-standard combat options. Trip, grapple, and otherwise disrupt the enemy lines. Intentionally draw AOOs using mobility, so that fellow party members can approach opponents who have reach safely. Dress him up as a wizard, pointy hat and all. All those obnoxious enemies who like to target mages first will be in for a bit of a shock. ;) Well, hope some of these ideas prove helpful. . . . . . . . -- Eric [/QUOTE]

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