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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ryltar" data-source="post: 2487841" data-attributes="member: 19393">Hi folks,in the process of designing an ulitharid LBEG for my current campaign, I hit upon a problem. Here's hoping that some of the knowledgeable ENworlders out there may be able to help me out <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />:The Mind Flayer, Ulitharid entry in "Lords of Madness" states that a) Advancement: by character class andb) A psionic ulitharid manifests powers as a psion (telepath) of 13th level.Now, the way I see it, there's two ways to advance this critter:First, by using the "normal" monster advancement rules, i.e. giving it additional Aberration HD, Skills, Feats etc.Second, by adding a class level, as recommended. In this case, I'd want to add four to five levels of psion.Now, the question is this: If I add psion levels, do I use "Psion Level 1-5", or rather "Psion Level 14-18"? Is the mention of it casting at 13th level just there for caster level checks , or does it actually mean that (since it's not psi-like abilities) the ulitharid's abilities will stack with psion levels for determining manifestation abilities, including powers known? OR, does it mean that just the manifester levels stack, but not the Powers Known? This way, the ulitharid would only gain a handful of PP and some low-level powers.Furthermore, if I advance the creature by class NOT starting at 1st level, how do I determine feats?I hope the question isn't as confusing as I think it's looking right now <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />. I've searched the SRD, but couldn't find a clear reference in the Monster Advancement section. Then again, I might just have overlooked something.  <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /> Any takers?</blockquote>

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