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<blockquote data-quote="Dandu" data-source="post: 5060774" data-attributes="member: 85158"><p>You said that four of those duelists could take out a dragon in a few rounds. "A team of four such characters could..."</p><p></p><p>This is manifestly untrue if the dragon does anything other than stand around like an idiot.</p><p></p><p>Handily my arse. Care to demonstrate exactly how it "passed handily"? From what I can see, it's not even a threat to the dragon because it can't reach the thing.</p><p></p><p>Even assuming you engage it in combat by obtaining flight, your calculations assume that the Dragon has not used any spells or any of its wealth to increase its AC. The dragon can easily get +8 to its AC with Shield and Mage Armor, not to mention a casting of Shield of Faith for an additional +2 to AC. This is +10 to AC so far. Suddenly, you're only hitting on a roll of 19 or higher when fighting defensively, while the Dragon still doesn't need to sweat in order to hit you. Not so hot, eh?</p><p></p><p>If the dragon has his second 2nd level spell as Mirror Image... you now have to deal with a decent miss chance.</p><p></p><p>A Horn of Fog costs 2000 and grants a stacking miss chance on top of that. The monster entry notes that dragons usually take Blind Fight which would help it fight under those conditions. </p><p></p><p>I could go on.</p><p></p><p></p><p>The dragon gets infinite uses of the breath weapon. You will not be able to reach it and roll a 1 eventually. You also take damage on a successful save because you do not have Evasion.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Assuming the Dragon doesn't have a Cloak of Charisma or anything to increase the DC. </p><p></p><p>Glitterdust also has a range of Medium (100ft+10ft/level), so you're getting hit with it while the dragon is out of your range.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Metamagic Rod of Extend Spell, Lesser, 3000 gp</p><p></p><p></p><p>There go your buffs.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You have no idea.</p><p></p><p>I reiterate that the dragon has a fly speed of 150 ft before any enhancement, and they take flyby attack. Walking in a circle isn't going to do squat.</p><p></p><p>So far, the hypothetical dragon has used up one feat, 3 out of 4 of its first level spells, both of its second level spells, and 5000 gp worth of equipment. I'd give it some more items, but I'm not quite sure what treasure it should have.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dandu, post: 5060774, member: 85158"] You said that four of those duelists could take out a dragon in a few rounds. "A team of four such characters could..." This is manifestly untrue if the dragon does anything other than stand around like an idiot. Handily my arse. Care to demonstrate exactly how it "passed handily"? From what I can see, it's not even a threat to the dragon because it can't reach the thing. Even assuming you engage it in combat by obtaining flight, your calculations assume that the Dragon has not used any spells or any of its wealth to increase its AC. The dragon can easily get +8 to its AC with Shield and Mage Armor, not to mention a casting of Shield of Faith for an additional +2 to AC. This is +10 to AC so far. Suddenly, you're only hitting on a roll of 19 or higher when fighting defensively, while the Dragon still doesn't need to sweat in order to hit you. Not so hot, eh? If the dragon has his second 2nd level spell as Mirror Image... you now have to deal with a decent miss chance. A Horn of Fog costs 2000 and grants a stacking miss chance on top of that. The monster entry notes that dragons usually take Blind Fight which would help it fight under those conditions. I could go on. The dragon gets infinite uses of the breath weapon. You will not be able to reach it and roll a 1 eventually. You also take damage on a successful save because you do not have Evasion. Assuming the Dragon doesn't have a Cloak of Charisma or anything to increase the DC. Glitterdust also has a range of Medium (100ft+10ft/level), so you're getting hit with it while the dragon is out of your range. Metamagic Rod of Extend Spell, Lesser, 3000 gp There go your buffs. You have no idea. I reiterate that the dragon has a fly speed of 150 ft before any enhancement, and they take flyby attack. Walking in a circle isn't going to do squat. So far, the hypothetical dragon has used up one feat, 3 out of 4 of its first level spells, both of its second level spells, and 5000 gp worth of equipment. I'd give it some more items, but I'm not quite sure what treasure it should have. [/QUOTE]
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