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<blockquote data-quote="Goonalan" data-source="post: 5455555" data-attributes="member: 16069"><p>While reading this thread, and thinking about its contents, and how I suffer from some of the problems highlighted in the OP; I've had an epiphany.</p><p></p><p>Simply put-</p><p></p><p>Players are from Mars,</p><p>DMs are from Venus.</p><p></p><p>IMHO good players are great, while good DMs are rare- or something like that, what I'm saying is I describe myself as a DM, with a little pride, I even every now and then think of myself as being a good DM. My players say nice stuff and keep coming back, so... I guess etc.</p><p></p><p>I'm a DM because I'm a bit of a control freak, and anally retentive (almost OCD at times). I read far too much about the game, which often leads to simple ideas becoming monsters. I create far too much info for my players at times- see my sig for the stat sheets et al. I make spreadsheets detailing what the players have done each session, their XP progression, magic item lists, fame and notoriety changes, lists of monsters they have killed, lists of encounters they have over come etc. I write campaign logs et al.</p><p></p><p>For my Maptools game I scour the internet for resources and what I can't find I endeavour to make/build/create myself.</p><p></p><p>I'm a DM because I do all these things to make my (and their- the players) experience better, and because I like doing it.</p><p></p><p>I'm a lecturer in the real world- so far tonight I've written four hand outs, uploaded a dozen documents and/or film clips on to the Virtul Learning Environment, and planned three other classes. I put as much effort in to my job, again because I enjoy doing it. My work colleagues do this also- it's the norm.</p><p></p><p>Then I sometimes make the mistake of judging my players (and students) for not doing as much, or not being 'ready', at work I feel this is more acceptable (then I remember what I was like as a student and I stop feeling so pissed off). In-game I've become much more tolerant, sure I go off the rails every now and then but that's human nature.</p><p></p><p>But I keep coming back to the fact that- I'm a DM, it's what I do, and I do it because I like it, yes I wish my players would carry more of the load at times but... after 30 years of DMing I'm still going the extra mile.</p><p></p><p>I love being a DM say 95% of the time, I dislike my players maybe the other 5% of the time and wish I could just turn up and play- not bad percentages when you think about it.</p><p></p><p>Cheers Goonalan</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Goonalan, post: 5455555, member: 16069"] While reading this thread, and thinking about its contents, and how I suffer from some of the problems highlighted in the OP; I've had an epiphany. Simply put- Players are from Mars, DMs are from Venus. IMHO good players are great, while good DMs are rare- or something like that, what I'm saying is I describe myself as a DM, with a little pride, I even every now and then think of myself as being a good DM. My players say nice stuff and keep coming back, so... I guess etc. I'm a DM because I'm a bit of a control freak, and anally retentive (almost OCD at times). I read far too much about the game, which often leads to simple ideas becoming monsters. I create far too much info for my players at times- see my sig for the stat sheets et al. I make spreadsheets detailing what the players have done each session, their XP progression, magic item lists, fame and notoriety changes, lists of monsters they have killed, lists of encounters they have over come etc. I write campaign logs et al. For my Maptools game I scour the internet for resources and what I can't find I endeavour to make/build/create myself. I'm a DM because I do all these things to make my (and their- the players) experience better, and because I like doing it. I'm a lecturer in the real world- so far tonight I've written four hand outs, uploaded a dozen documents and/or film clips on to the Virtul Learning Environment, and planned three other classes. I put as much effort in to my job, again because I enjoy doing it. My work colleagues do this also- it's the norm. Then I sometimes make the mistake of judging my players (and students) for not doing as much, or not being 'ready', at work I feel this is more acceptable (then I remember what I was like as a student and I stop feeling so pissed off). In-game I've become much more tolerant, sure I go off the rails every now and then but that's human nature. But I keep coming back to the fact that- I'm a DM, it's what I do, and I do it because I like it, yes I wish my players would carry more of the load at times but... after 30 years of DMing I'm still going the extra mile. I love being a DM say 95% of the time, I dislike my players maybe the other 5% of the time and wish I could just turn up and play- not bad percentages when you think about it. Cheers Goonalan [/QUOTE]
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