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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wachman" data-source="post: 322210" data-attributes="member: 6735">Thanks for the replies. The votes so far range from way overpowered, to slightly underpowered. The point seems to be what is the value of higher level spells verse having more lower level spells. What is the value of being able to cast 9th level spells? 8th? ATO_DM:    True, the Prc may have all of those spells, and more. However, he can’t have:Protection from spellsIncendiary CloudDiscern LocationSunburstHorrid WiltingIron BodyMordenkainen’s DisjunctionGateMeteor SwarmWish    Or any other 8th or 9th level spells. He also only has 1 7th level spell, while his straight counter part has 3.Kip:    Thanks for the info, I don’t have Dragon, but I’ll see if I can get a hold of that issue and check out that class. Al:    I agree, this Prc will not be as effective in a combat as a straight Soc. The player will have to choose his spells known carefully, and which spells to cast. His damage will be less, and his save DC’s will be lower. Also his spells will be easier to dispell. The ultimate question remains, what is giving up your high level spell ability worth?</blockquote>