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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Macgyvercas" data-source="post: 5667739" data-attributes="member: 6681417">I'm aware of the spellcasting thing. I was under the assuption, though, that all three of his forms would have the Lich template, and therefore use the Lich's natural armor bonus. Also, you would think the alternate forms (the hybrid especially) would still have the touch attack or at least deal the extra damage. From the SRD:Armor ClassA lich has a +5 <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/theBasics.htm#naturalArmorBonus" target="_blank">natural armor bonus</a> or the base creature’s natural armor bonus, whichever is better.AttackA lich has a <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatStatistics.htm#touchAttacks" target="_blank">touch attack</a> that it can use once per round. If the base creature can use weapons, the lich retains this ability. A creature with <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#naturalWeapons" target="_blank">natural weapons</a> retains those natural weapons. A lich fighting without weapons uses either its touch attack or its primary natural weapon (if it has any). A lich armed with a weapon uses its touch or a weapon, as it desires.Full AttackA lich fighting without weapons uses either its <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatStatistics.htm#touchAttacks" target="_blank">touch attack</a> (see above) or its <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#naturalWeapons" target="_blank">natural weapons</a> (if it has any). If armed with a weapon, it usually uses the weapon as its primary attack along with a touch as a natural secondary attack, provided it has a way to make that attack (either a free hand or a natural weapon that it can use as a secondary attack).DamageA lich without <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/specialAbilities.htm#naturalWeapons" target="_blank">natural weapons</a> has a <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatStatistics.htm#touchAttacks" target="_blank">touch attack</a> that uses negative energy to deal 1d8+5 points of damage to living creatures; a <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/combat/combatStatistics.htm#will" target="_blank">Will save</a> (DC 10 + ½ lich’s HD + lich’s Cha modifier) halves the damage. A lich with natural weapons can use its touch attack or its natural weaponry, as it prefers. If it chooses the latter, it deals 1d8+5 points of extra damage on one natural weapon attack. The way I see it, since his type is Undead in his "human" form, his type would be Undead in all his forms. Ergo, he would gain the benefits of being a lich even then (5 natural armor bonus, touch attack, DR, etc). Unless we've somehow gotten into a RAW VS RAI situation...</blockquote>

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