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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EccentricBard" data-source="post: 4869542" data-attributes="member: 84557">Alright, I'm pretty happy with all the options that have opened up to me at this stage. Arcane Tricker with the suggested level distribution from Thanee seems to be really good. If im not mistaken,at level 20 I would have the spells of a level 18 wizard, and with practiced caster a caster level of 20? I went through the Beguiler but I didn't like Suprise Casting, (Although at level 20 it seems really good). Going Bard was what I did last campaign,so I doubt I'll do it again,although it was a blast. My DM really hates Bards. He views them as the archenemy of Duskblades for some reason. My characters are typically N.Good or C.Good,though I don't like Lawful Stupid <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />, so Assassin is out of the question. Also,I don't know much about 4e,but why do people ask me what books I'm using if I'm posting on the pre-4e forum? Daggerspell guy seems REALLY cool,and I am going to use him in one of our upcoming campaigns for sure. Thanks for that Darklone. So,regardless,I think im going Arcane Trickster. Does anyone have any idea for Feats? Also, will there be an XP penalty for going Rogue 1/ Spellthief 1/ Wizard 5/Arcane Trickster X? If I have it right,Rogue/Spellthief do not conflict since they are both within one level of each other. Im going Moon Elf,so my favoured class is Wizard,so that's not a problem. Do prestige classes invoke XP penalties? Thanks for all the help.You guys have been great.Thanks for the warm welcome! <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/laugh.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":lol:" title="Laughing    :lol:" data-shortname=":lol:" /> Edit : Are there any better races for this build? I don't have Races of Stone,and I prefer Elves anyway on account of awesome.</blockquote>

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