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<blockquote data-quote="Abraxas" data-source="post: 1346180" data-attributes="member: 1266"><p>OK, the Dungeaon adventure I am currently running for my players contains a Gibbering Mouther. The stats for this beasty (from the SRD) that I have questions about are . . . </p><p> </p><p><em>Gibbering Mouther</em></p><p>Medium-Size Aberration</p><p><strong>BAB/Grapple:</strong> +3/+3</p><p><strong>Attacks:</strong> 6 bites +4 melee</p><p><strong>Damage:</strong> Bite 1</p><p><strong>Special Attacks:</strong> Improved grab, blood drain, engulf</p><p><strong>Abilities:</strong> Str 10, Dex 13, Con 12, Int 4, Wis 13, Cha 13</p><p><strong>Feats:</strong> Weapon Finesse (bite)</p><p> </p><p><strong>Combat</strong></p><p>Gibbering mouthers attack by shooting out strings of protoplasmic flesh, each ending in one or more eyes and a mouth that bites at the enemy. A mouther can send out a total of six such members in any round.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Improved Grab (Ex):</strong> To use this ability, the gibbering mouther must hit with a bite attack.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Blood Drain (Ex):</strong> On a second successful grapple check after grabbing, that mouth attaches to the opponent. It automatically deals bite damage and drains blood, dealing 1 point of temporary Constitution damage each round. A mouth can be ripped off (dealing 1 point of damage) with a successful Strength check (DC 12) or severed by a normal attack that deals at least 2 points of damage (AC 18). A severed mouth continues to bite and drain blood for 1d4 rounds after such an attack. A creature whose Constitution is reduced to 0 is killed and absorbed by the mouther, which gains 1 hit point and adds another mouth and pair of eyes to its body.</p><p> </p><p><strong>Engulf (Ex):</strong> A gibbering mouther can try to engulf a Medium-size or smaller opponent grabbed by three or more mouths. The opponent must succeed at a Reflex save (DC 14) or fall and be engulfed. On the next round, the mouther makes twelve bite attacks instead of six (each with a +4 attack bonus). An engulfed creature cannot attack the mouther from within. The previously attached mouths are now free to attack others</p><p> </p><p>Here are my questions.</p><p>The GM makes a successful bite attack at +4 (inflicting 1 point damage) and (using improved grab) starts a grapple.</p><p>- Assuming it wins the grapple, how many more attacks does it get vs the grappled creature?</p><p>- Are all additional attacks vs the Grappled creature at a -4 penalty?</p><p> </p><p>Now, lets assume the round ends and the grappled creature fails to break free. Next round the GM gets 1 grapple attack (because of BAB) thus attaching the mouth that started the whole grapple, inflicting 1 point damage and draining 1 point of CON.</p><p>- Because of the GM's BAB, is 1 the maximum number of mouths it may attach in this way in any one round?</p><p> </p><p>Now lets assume that the GM's target has been really unlucky and is engulfed.</p><p>- Does the GM now stop grappling?</p><p>- If it can continue to grapple, how many attacks does it get and at what bonus are these attacks?</p><p>- How does the target escape from being engulfed?</p><p>- Why would the GM release the mouths that had been attached and draining blood from the target?</p><p>- It can get 12 attacks vs an engulfed creature, how many attacks can it make vs another non engulfed creature at the same time?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Abraxas, post: 1346180, member: 1266"] OK, the Dungeaon adventure I am currently running for my players contains a Gibbering Mouther. The stats for this beasty (from the SRD) that I have questions about are . . . [i]Gibbering Mouther[/i] Medium-Size Aberration [b]BAB/Grapple:[/b] +3/+3 [b]Attacks:[/b] 6 bites +4 melee [b]Damage:[/b] Bite 1 [b]Special Attacks:[/b] Improved grab, blood drain, engulf [b]Abilities:[/b] Str 10, Dex 13, Con 12, Int 4, Wis 13, Cha 13 [b]Feats:[/b] Weapon Finesse (bite) [b]Combat[/b] Gibbering mouthers attack by shooting out strings of protoplasmic flesh, each ending in one or more eyes and a mouth that bites at the enemy. A mouther can send out a total of six such members in any round. [b]Improved Grab (Ex):[/b] To use this ability, the gibbering mouther must hit with a bite attack. [b]Blood Drain (Ex):[/b] On a second successful grapple check after grabbing, that mouth attaches to the opponent. It automatically deals bite damage and drains blood, dealing 1 point of temporary Constitution damage each round. A mouth can be ripped off (dealing 1 point of damage) with a successful Strength check (DC 12) or severed by a normal attack that deals at least 2 points of damage (AC 18). A severed mouth continues to bite and drain blood for 1d4 rounds after such an attack. A creature whose Constitution is reduced to 0 is killed and absorbed by the mouther, which gains 1 hit point and adds another mouth and pair of eyes to its body. [b]Engulf (Ex):[/b] A gibbering mouther can try to engulf a Medium-size or smaller opponent grabbed by three or more mouths. The opponent must succeed at a Reflex save (DC 14) or fall and be engulfed. On the next round, the mouther makes twelve bite attacks instead of six (each with a +4 attack bonus). An engulfed creature cannot attack the mouther from within. The previously attached mouths are now free to attack others Here are my questions. The GM makes a successful bite attack at +4 (inflicting 1 point damage) and (using improved grab) starts a grapple. - Assuming it wins the grapple, how many more attacks does it get vs the grappled creature? - Are all additional attacks vs the Grappled creature at a -4 penalty? Now, lets assume the round ends and the grappled creature fails to break free. Next round the GM gets 1 grapple attack (because of BAB) thus attaching the mouth that started the whole grapple, inflicting 1 point damage and draining 1 point of CON. - Because of the GM's BAB, is 1 the maximum number of mouths it may attach in this way in any one round? Now lets assume that the GM's target has been really unlucky and is engulfed. - Does the GM now stop grappling? - If it can continue to grapple, how many attacks does it get and at what bonus are these attacks? - How does the target escape from being engulfed? - Why would the GM release the mouths that had been attached and draining blood from the target? - It can get 12 attacks vs an engulfed creature, how many attacks can it make vs another non engulfed creature at the same time? [/QUOTE]
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