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<blockquote data-quote="Machiavelli" data-source="post: 3312362" data-attributes="member: 40964"><p>Sh**!!!</p><p></p><p>Well, okay. Now I see that. +20 Strength is still nice, even if it only keeps pace with the +10 BAB you miss out on.</p><p></p><p>What's this about exta AoO's with Improved Trip? You still only get as many attacks against a foe as you usually would, you just get to also trip them first... which is handy all by itself, yes.</p><p></p><p>Regardless, you can only wait for the opponents to draw AoO's themselves; you can't force them to. Expecting that to happen more often then not requires that one first assumes a few things about the conditions of combat. In my experience, enemies don't do needlessly stupid things to get themselves killed; only the conditions of combat force them to (a primary one being spellcasters hurling area-of-effect spells).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Machiavelli, post: 3312362, member: 40964"] Sh**!!! Well, okay. Now I see that. +20 Strength is still nice, even if it only keeps pace with the +10 BAB you miss out on. What's this about exta AoO's with Improved Trip? You still only get as many attacks against a foe as you usually would, you just get to also trip them first... which is handy all by itself, yes. Regardless, you can only wait for the opponents to draw AoO's themselves; you can't force them to. Expecting that to happen more often then not requires that one first assumes a few things about the conditions of combat. In my experience, enemies don't do needlessly stupid things to get themselves killed; only the conditions of combat force them to (a primary one being spellcasters hurling area-of-effect spells). [/QUOTE]
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