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<blockquote data-quote="Dannyalcatraz" data-source="post: 4064330" data-attributes="member: 19675">Very similar to the Monk is the OA Shaman, which was made even moreso by the 3.5 update in Dragon#318.&nbsp; Like the Monk, it has 3/4 BAB and IUC as a bonus feat, but doesn't have FoB or increasing damage output with unarmed strikes, or the ability to enhance his unarmed strikes, etc.The 3.5 update increases the damage output at the same rate as the Monks, but still lets the monk have FoB and much of the rest.What the class does have, though, is full spellcasting w/2 Domains &amp; turning, and it eventually gets a 3rd Domain.I personally like Dex monks, esp. with polearms to improve the likelyhood of using all of their AoOs (with Combat Reflexes).&nbsp; He'll need to do things a little differently than a Str monk build, though, like taking the feats Hold the line, Stand Still, and Deft Opportunist, and filling a Quiver of Ehlonna with javelins &amp; crossbow bolts...Also, if you use DCv1- source of the aforementioned Battle Dancer- there are feats that let monks use other light weapons or even polearms (see above!) as monk weapons, so in the latter case, you could have a monk who can FoB with reach.&nbsp; There is also a feat that lets the monk use his unarmed strikes at range.The Kensai PrCl also lets you boost damage a LOT by 1) enchanting the PC's signature weapon- for most monks, the PC's unarmed strike- and 2) using the Power Surge ability to grant +8Str on occasion...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannyalcatraz, post: 4064330, member: 19675"] Very similar to the Monk is the OA Shaman, which was made even moreso by the 3.5 update in Dragon#318. Like the Monk, it has 3/4 BAB and IUC as a bonus feat, but doesn't have FoB or increasing damage output with unarmed strikes, or the ability to enhance his unarmed strikes, etc. The 3.5 update increases the damage output at the same rate as the Monks, but still lets the monk have FoB and much of the rest. What the class [I]does[/I] have, though, is full spellcasting w/2 Domains & turning, and it eventually gets a 3rd Domain. I personally like Dex monks, esp. with polearms to improve the likelyhood of using all of their AoOs (with Combat Reflexes). He'll need to do things a little differently than a Str monk build, though, like taking the feats Hold the line, Stand Still, and Deft Opportunist, and filling a Quiver of Ehlonna with javelins & crossbow bolts... Also, if you use DCv1- source of the aforementioned Battle Dancer- there are feats that let monks use other light weapons or even polearms (see above!) as monk weapons, so in the latter case, you could have a monk who can FoB with reach. There is also a feat that lets the monk use his unarmed strikes at [I]range.[/I] The Kensai PrCl also lets you boost damage a LOT by 1) enchanting the PC's signature weapon- for most monks, the PC's unarmed strike- and 2) using the Power Surge ability to grant +8Str on occasion... [/QUOTE]

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