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Message: <blockquote data-quote="happyhermit" data-source="post: 6991875" data-attributes="member: 6834463">I'm sorry pemerton, the way in which you have quoted me here seems designed to not only hinder discussion, but misrepresent much of what was said. I don't even see how you could pull out the lines you did without reading the rest. Still;They won't fit. We don't know that they will shoot their bows, but they should, or throw their spears. If the GM chooses to nerf them it is not a problem either for the system or the GM.Sure, but nobody is saying that Gnolls shouldn't be played like that. People are saying that 5e Gnolls weren't designed to behave like that, and they are saying that if you play Gnolls like that you they will be much less of a threat. For example I said the same things here;and here;Actually, if you go back CapnZapp mentioned Gnolls getting hit by the aura twice without being able to attack, which means they charged into it (though there is still no way they shouldn't have been able to melee before getting hit the second time).Which again, isn't a problem. The problem comes in when one uses a situation like this as a "test" or an example of something, as though it is representative of what the game presents. It is only different in degree from saying; "I threw an archmage against the party, I took away his magic and gave him a stick and they shredded him. This is broken."Serious question? Ok;Because they can throw stuff. Because they can use ranged weapons.Because large groups cannot all get into melee.Because in 5e the game, they almost always have them.Again? You ask the same question again? Nobody is saying the GM can't do this, they absolutely can modify the monsters in 5e it explicitly says so. It's just that if you do that it is no longer representative. Strangely, some of the most on-topic points of my post you skipped such as;Frankly, the added details to the scenario raise more questions than answers, but CapnZapp doesn't seem to want to go into them so I won't pose more. I still don't know how this stuff worked;</blockquote>

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