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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 9534799" data-attributes="member: 725">40k lore has always been mutating, very little of original 'Rogue Trader' (1987) is left. Some of the changes have been for the better, some have been for the worse. I find that most of the sarcasm has been lost and 40k lore takes itself way too serious these days... But I've always seen each and every 40k product as being written by someone in 40k universe with their own preconceptions and views, which would then also explain the many, many inconsistencies...Cavil is a gamer and an actor, how much of that gaming persona is he acting? But even if he's a true nerd, true nerds come in all forms and alignments. How many guys would high five a guy that is 33 and dating a 19 year old? How many women would high five the girl that's dating Cavil? As long as it's legal consenting adults, it's none of my business. Even if it isn't (as there are unconfirmed rumors of him 'dating' below the legal age), it's still not my business, it's police business.Getting into 40k can be done in many ways, what's right for you depends on what you want to get out of it. While I'll be the first to say that rules made by Games Workshop tend to be not the best (to the worst), there are still people playing 40k without getting into the building minis and painting them, they just hire someone else to do that part. There are some very good painting services out there, but that just makes getting an army more expensive. So if costs are a huge hurdle for you, then that isn't realistic. But there is fiction, pnp RPGs, diverse computer games, comics, toys, etc.As for it being a bigger money pit then MTG, I disagree. If you want everything in MTG then, these years you're also digging very deep in a very big bag of money, just as if you wanted everything from 40k. You can also decide to play the many smaller sub games to get started, like Necromunda and Kill Team. But you can get a playable force for €100-€150 to get started, rules are free these days, but a nice core rulebook + army book is an additional €80, and depending on the mini count and painting quality another €450-€700... There's also tons of people that just assemble the minis and play unpainted. A boosterbox of MTG is easily €150+, how many are bought every three months by the collector/player that keeps up with the meta?As for a new 40k series, we'll see... If it actually comes. And when it's out if it's actually good. And what 'good' is exactly, differs greatly. For example I really like the 'new' HALO tv series, but HALO fans don't like it due to it not being true to the lore. As a long time D&D 'fan'/player I can't watch much of the 'new' D&D movie... We'll see and tastes will differ.</blockquote>

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